Kinda odd recommendations from Futral?
06-21-2005, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Candy
The PRC 5.3 hasnt been tested on all of the cams yet and I know we just got a set about a month ago so anytime he is not sure that something will definitely fit he will not speculate he will let you know that the only way to be sure is the check the ptv clearance. Allan has never been someone of alot of words so just to let you know he is not being short or vague intentionally. Now that we have a PRC 5.3 head I will revisit this question with him and get back to you.
Thanks
Thanks
I envy people that live within 100 miles from Futral and Allen's expertise.
Thank God for you I don't, you would probably put a restraining order on me LOL
Your help would be so appreciated. Thanks Candy.
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06-21-2005, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Candy,
You have a sister? Cause I need someone like you to help around my shop!
Bret
You have a sister? Cause I need someone like you to help around my shop!
Bret
Sorry, I dont have a sister, Im sure we could clone one up pretty soon..
Originally Posted by 93LS1RX7
I need my fiance to be able to talk about cams like Candy does. Im jealous.
Originally Posted by PREDATORZ
I envy people that live within 100 miles from Futral and Allen's expertise.
Thank God for you I don't, you would probably put a restraining order on me LOL
Thank God for you I don't, you would probably put a restraining order on me LOL
06-21-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Oh yes I know he is busy, but given the head specs, with his experience i'm sure he could come up with a ballpark answer.
I've inqired by e-mail as to the (FM9 fitting PRC 5.3L 62cc (2.04 int/1.585 exh) with GM .054 compressed gasket, .007 piston out of hole) and after a week the answer was " You'll just have to check it out".
To me that didn't sell me the cam for sure. i do not want to flycut so the answer before purchase is imperative. my thought was, "fewwww, that is a lot of help
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Perhaps could you help Candy??
I've inqired by e-mail as to the (FM9 fitting PRC 5.3L 62cc (2.04 int/1.585 exh) with GM .054 compressed gasket, .007 piston out of hole) and after a week the answer was " You'll just have to check it out".
To me that didn't sell me the cam for sure. i do not want to flycut so the answer before purchase is imperative. my thought was, "fewwww, that is a lot of help
)Perhaps could you help Candy??
I've talked to Futral staff a few times and each time learned more about the variables involved with PtoV. I didn't realize how much the valve job alone could impact clearence issues.
We're pushing the envelope trying to make more power out of our LSx motors. The only for certain answer is that stock heads with stock valves will clear the pistons when using the stock cam and valave train.
Don't mean to be be flippent, you've been helpful to me and I can apreicaite your being out of the country. I live in a real rural area and finding parts can be a PITA
I'm still using your compression calculator playing with all the different possibilities.Citing the fact that Candy is married and so am I...I'll withhold any comments about talking to a sweet southern accented young lady with more knowledge about motors than I do being any kind of a turn on
06-21-2005, 03:12 PM
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hey ssheets.
Last I looked cometic didn't offer a .042 gasket.
They had .045 and a .040
When using a .040 gasket you will get the 11.1 CR your after with no milling of the heads. With no milling and the .045 gasket you get just over 10.85:1 CR.
I would mill the heads about 6-8 thousands and use the .045 gasket for the compression you seek, or dont mill at all and use the .040 gasket.
As far as clearence goes.
I would flycut and be safe. If I was a beting man I would bet it dosen't fit without flycuting.
Just my oponion. The valve job will be a big factor.
Last I looked cometic didn't offer a .042 gasket.
They had .045 and a .040
When using a .040 gasket you will get the 11.1 CR your after with no milling of the heads. With no milling and the .045 gasket you get just over 10.85:1 CR.
I would mill the heads about 6-8 thousands and use the .045 gasket for the compression you seek, or dont mill at all and use the .040 gasket.
As far as clearence goes.
I would flycut and be safe. If I was a beting man I would bet it dosen't fit without flycuting.
Just my oponion. The valve job will be a big factor.
06-21-2005, 04:02 PM
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Bruce FM13 idles like a baby. Would you be willing to try something in that size/overlap?
Bruce
06-21-2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
hey ssheets.
Last I looked cometic didn't offer a .042 gasket.
They had .045 and a .040
When using a .040 gasket you will get the 11.1 CR your after with no milling of the heads. With no milling and the .045 gasket you get just over 10.85:1 CR.
I would mill the heads about 6-8 thousands and use the .045 gasket for the compression you seek, or dont mill at all and use the .040 gasket.
As far as clearence goes.
I would flycut and be safe. If I was a beting man I would bet it dosen't fit without flycuting.
Just my oponion. The valve job will be a big factor.
Last I looked cometic didn't offer a .042 gasket.
They had .045 and a .040
When using a .040 gasket you will get the 11.1 CR your after with no milling of the heads. With no milling and the .045 gasket you get just over 10.85:1 CR.
I would mill the heads about 6-8 thousands and use the .045 gasket for the compression you seek, or dont mill at all and use the .040 gasket.
As far as clearence goes.
I would flycut and be safe. If I was a beting man I would bet it dosen't fit without flycuting.
Just my oponion. The valve job will be a big factor.
At least that sounds good for now...I'll talk to Allan when I get the cc numbers in and see what he suggests.
I'm definitely going to have to measure up first if need be I might have to buy the Cometics or just settle for 10.8:1 or so????
06-21-2005, 07:56 PM
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just a side not boys, i called futral today about some stuff and i agree, Candy is awesome...she sounds HOT on the phone, and her reccomendations were great as well!!!
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
just a side not boys, i called futral today about some stuff and i agree, Candy is awesome...she sounds HOT on the phone, and her reccomendations were great as well!!!
06-21-2005, 08:48 PM
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Why do I have a feeling that the tech questions are going to increase now?(...as if they were not already slammed with calls.)
Oh well,....I hope the sales fallow
Candy,
Thanks for your time today!
Oh well,....I hope the sales fallow
Candy,
Thanks for your time today!
06-21-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
just a side not boys, i called futral today about some stuff and i agree, Candy is awesome...she sounds HOT on the phone, and her reccomendations were great as well!!!
Yep it was pretty hot today, dont know if its the weather or talking about cars all day
06-21-2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ldickson
Candy,I been trying to get someone on the phone for about 2 weeks now. when is a good time to call?? could you pm me a price on a dyno tune?
Thanks
Candy
06-21-2005, 10:24 PM
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I tried calling all day today too. When I purchased my cam package we included a gasket set, but I didn't know at the time which gasket to use ( I still don't). Since I had the cam package sent to my builder I never saw the invoice and don't know if I was charged for it or not? (I told Kip to put in on my bill, just not sure if he did?) So I was going to ask that and what head gaskets you'all (souther influx ) have in stock.
Also, when my builder go tthe cam package he unpacked everything expecting to debur the springs and retainers, but to his surprise everything had been hand cleaned and was ready to go. He told me everything I bought looked top quality.
This is from an old time engine builder that has quite a resume.
Thanks again and I'll try calling tomorrow when I get a chance.
) have in stock.Also, when my builder go tthe cam package he unpacked everything expecting to debur the springs and retainers, but to his surprise everything had been hand cleaned and was ready to go. He told me everything I bought looked top quality.
This is from an old time engine builder that has quite a resume. Thanks again and I'll try calling tomorrow when I get a chance.
06-22-2005, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ssheets
Predator dude. I understand the desire to get an easy "ballpark" yes or no answer, but is it not an oxymoron to ask for a ballpark answer to a detailed engineering question?
I've talked to Futral staff a few times and each time learned more about the variables involved with PtoV. I didn't realize how much the valve job alone could impact clearence issues.
We're pushing the envelope trying to make more power out of our LSx motors. The only for certain answer is that stock heads with stock valves will clear the pistons when using the stock cam and valave train.
Don't mean to be be flippent, you've been helpful to me and I can apreicaite your being out of the country. I live in a real rural area and finding parts can be a PITA I'm still using your compression calculator playing with all the different possibilities.
Citing the fact that Candy is married and so am I...I'll withhold any comments about talking to a sweet southern accented young lady with more knowledge about motors than I do being any kind of a turn on
I've talked to Futral staff a few times and each time learned more about the variables involved with PtoV. I didn't realize how much the valve job alone could impact clearence issues.
We're pushing the envelope trying to make more power out of our LSx motors. The only for certain answer is that stock heads with stock valves will clear the pistons when using the stock cam and valave train.
Don't mean to be be flippent, you've been helpful to me and I can apreicaite your being out of the country. I live in a real rural area and finding parts can be a PITA
I'm still using your compression calculator playing with all the different possibilities.Citing the fact that Candy is married and so am I...I'll withhold any comments about talking to a sweet southern accented young lady with more knowledge about motors than I do being any kind of a turn on
I agree SSheets,
What meant by "ballpark figure" is will it fit without flycutting. I cannot flycut here so if cam is borderline, then suggest a close alternative that will fit.
All cams should be degreed anyways so it will be "checked" anyways.
But I do not want to get the FM9, only to find out I need to flycut and then I have to ship back (one way shipping cost me ($150+))
Now FM7 is too small and within my actual cam range.
Perhaps a FM8 1/2
