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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by v8robert
Message received and understood
Cheers big ears
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no problem and god bless all u brits

edit::: o and i guess u got my point but just to be safe by lsx i meant any ls based angine like ls1, ls6, ls2, and i guess ls7 but not to sure about that one since it's not out yet lol.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Yes I got it
Unfortunately I am a bit of a div when it comes to engines so simpler the better !

Another div question. What is the deal with the cam range quoting say for the RM13 1600 - 6800 rev range and the fact it can idle at far lower ?

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by v8robert
Yes I got it
Unfortunately I am a bit of a div when it comes to engines so simpler the better !

Another div question. What is the deal with the cam range quoting say for the RM13 1600 - 6800 rev range and the fact it can idle at far lower ?

Cheers
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1600-6800 is the cam range where it makes power, thats not the actuall rpm limit of the cam. thats just saying comparing this cam to stock it makes more power in that range, but it can still idle at 700-800 rpm no problem thats all.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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For a lightweight vehicle like the Cobra, you'd be better off with a slightly larger cam. It wouldn't make as much low end torque (don't need it) but will make up the difference on the top end. You would also be interested in gearing the car and the cam/powerband to maximize the "thrust." You don't want to bog or sping the tires too easily from a standstill or slow corner.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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do not put 1.8 rockers i repeat DO NOT PUT 1.8 ROCKERS on an lsx engine it will severely limit ur cam choise, and its a waist u will get better gains with a slitghtly bigger cam and 1.7 rockers, and drive better, than with a slightly smaller cam and 1.8 rockers, and did i already mentioned 1.8 will severely limit ur cam choise.
Quick, call GM and tell them to take 1.8's off the C6 Z06 LS7 running with a .591 lift. Would you like me to call Dave himself?

The factory road racing cams have reasonable lift with a long duration.

I would not listen to "most" of the guys here, they have ZERO road racing experience, zero experience road racing an LS 427 and about 1 in 50 has a 427. The C5R (427) guys generally shift at 6,000-6,500. This why this combination is reliable, just don't need to shift any higher. The Caddy is running a destroked 331 and is shifting in the mid-7,000 range. They had all kinds of problems finishing last year.

On a two minute course, you "might" see a 0.1-0.5 second difference between shifting 6k of 6.5k depending on the straights. If your racing professionally you need every tenth and will be rebuilding your motor on a regular basis (and have five spares).

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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I wouldn't have someone port the heads that doesn't do a lot of work on lsx heads. They can do more damage than good if not done right. Why not just buy a h/c package from a sponsor over here. I think that just a F13 cam would get you were you want to be with heads. I tuned a car with one and idled at 850rpm nice and smooth. Ran 12.3 @ 109 mph so far with two loose distributor cables.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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supercharge or turbo it, done deal and powers always there. plus you can run a mild cam and it will be easy to drive around town, and have tons of grunt down low to match the power up top.

depends on your budget for mods.

You have raced at The Ring??? That is a dream of mine.........someday before I'm 50 I will do laps at that monster!
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I addition to the cam and heads, do you have a good LS1/LS6 Tuner over there or are you going to be tuning the car through a computer program such as HP Tuners? If you dont have access to a good tuner and a dyno then its gonna be tough to get any cam running right unless you can talk to one of the sponsors and see if you could send them the ECU and have them tune it to the specifications of your modifications. Good luck with the project though, id go with a 230 intake/ 232 exhaust cam with the ported heads, that should make some real nice power!
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BUYAMERICAN
Quick, call GM and tell them to take 1.8's off the C6 Z06 LS7 running with a .591 lift. Would you like me to call Dave himself?

The factory road racing cams have reasonable lift with a long duration.

I would not listen to "most" of the guys here, they have ZERO road racing experience, zero experience road racing an LS 427 and about 1 in 50 has a 427. The C5R (427) guys generally shift at 6,000-6,500. This why this combination is reliable, just don't need to shift any higher. The Caddy is running a destroked 331 and is shifting in the mid-7,000 range. They had all kinds of problems finishing last year.

On a two minute course, you "might" see a 0.1-0.5 second difference between shifting 6k of 6.5k depending on the straights. If your racing professionally you need every tenth and will be rebuilding your motor on a regular basis (and have five spares).
not trying to step on anyones toes but the same can be said for yourself, you have a low post count, no sig that says anything about you, nobody knows who you are or what you do or if you even own an LSX based car so I guess you can be classified in the same group of
I would not listen to "most" of the guys here, they have ZERO road racing experience, zero experience road racing an LS 427 and about 1 in 50 has a 427.
and about the 1.8 rockers, im sure with a stock bottom end you can run a 23X/23X .591/.591 XE-R lobe cam and not run into any issues? and nobody was even on the subject of a 427.....again, not trying to step on any toes, just pointing some things out.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by v8robert
Yes I got it
Unfortunately I am a bit of a div when it comes to engines so simpler the better !

Another div question. What is the deal with the cam range quoting say for the RM13 1600 - 6800 rev range and the fact it can idle at far lower ?

Cheers
Rob

I've got a div question too...... What's a dive?

And on a side note, I'm staying up to respect your 2 minutes of silence. I can't tell you how much we appreciate Great Britton.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BUYAMERICAN
Quick, call GM and tell them to take 1.8's off the C6 Z06 LS7 running with a .591 lift. Would you like me to call Dave himself?

The factory road racing cams have reasonable lift with a long duration.

I would not listen to "most" of the guys here, they have ZERO road racing experience, zero experience road racing an LS 427 and about 1 in 50 has a 427. The C5R (427) guys generally shift at 6,000-6,500. This why this combination is reliable, just don't need to shift any higher. The Caddy is running a destroked 331 and is shifting in the mid-7,000 range. They had all kinds of problems finishing last year.

On a two minute course, you "might" see a 0.1-0.5 second difference between shifting 6k of 6.5k depending on the straights. If your racing professionally you need every tenth and will be rebuilding your motor on a regular basis (and have five spares).
ok smart as the ls7 isnt even out yet so i dont know what the deal with it is, iam refering to the after market cams for the ls1/ls6, oviously if the car comes desing from the factory to run 1.8 on a larger cam then it doesnt aply also the ls7 is a 427, where the ls6 is a 346. Go look at most tr after market cams, they tell u not to use them with 1.8 rockers and if tr cams wich are cut on comp cams lobes, are not recomended then that also leaves out comp cam, so lets see u cant use tr cams or comp cams yea i say thats a limitation in after market cams if u dont believe click on the little sponsor tab to the right and see for ur self god i cant stad when plp talk **** about others and dont bother to check things out.



edit::: o and when did he say this was going to be a track only car. I am not talking out of track experience i am talking out of daily driving real world expirience on 1.7 rockers u can run a larger more agresive cam, with better idle than a smaller cam on 1.8 rockers damn go drive around in the real world ok before u start trashing other plp on here. o and did i mention 1.8 WILL LIMIT UR AFTERMARKET CAM CHOISE ON A 346 BEACAUSE OF THe AGRESIVE AFTER MARKET CAM RAMP RATE!!!! go read before u trash. o and u did read the part where he said the car was gona be daily driven right?

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptUSA
I've got a div question too...... What's a dive?
Quaint English term = Divvy - Shortened to Div = Thick Person

And on a side note, I'm staying up to respect your 2 minutes of silence. I can't tell you how much we appreciate Great Britton.
Thanks for your thoughts, I was in London today for a meeting and walked out for the 2 min silence, very eerie as it was nearly silent on the streets with all the people and traffic stopped.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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o and yes i guess if u want to u can run 1.8 on any cam but thats like shooting ur self in the foot to get out of the army stuped, u will loose and kill potential, u will have more potential and room to work with if u stay on 1.7 and play with ur cam choises, as to an explenation to why see my last post. o and i cant say this enough an ls6 is nothing like an ls7 wich is a 427 nostly based on teh c6r engine wich was a full blown racing engine damn! but iam sure with all ur track experience u already knew that
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