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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Ok I am looking for an inexpensive set of heads that will give me the best gains. My current setup is 6.0L LQ4 shortblock, LS6 Intake, 236/243 612/622 @ 112 Futral Cam, Patriot dual valve springs. Heads are currently 5.7 853 castings milled .060 to bring me to about 11.1:1 compression [This was done to compensate for the dish in the LQ4 pistons.] The car is an A4 with a VIG 3600 Stall and 3.42 gear. The current dyno numbers are 384.9 RWHP and 380 TQ, I know the heads are holding it back, but dont want to spend a mint on a set of heads, any ideas anyone????
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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One set of heads I was looking at is the Partiot Stage III 6.0L heads [Summit part #PAR-2019 Cylinder Head, Stage III, Aluminum, Assembled, 72cc Chamber, 225cc Intake Runner, Chevy, 5.7L, LQ9, Pair ] But I know I would need to get them milled to up the compression, but how much?
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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If you are going to look at the patriots i think they also offer the LS6 style (6.0) heads in a welded 59cc chamber.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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I have heard alot of bad stuff about patriots... lol I dont know what to do, the main thing that drew me to those was the price [$1100]
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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There's alot of options you could go with.

You could have your set cnc ported & setup with big valves to save $$. You could also go with a 5.3l style head with the chambers opened up to match your bore. The PRC heads now sell for $1450 & come completely hand finished & flow tested to make sure you get a perfect cylinder head. We also offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee on the heads. With the current time spent on the heads we can only ship one set of PRC heads a day, but I feel it's better to ship one set of good heads then 3-4 sets of bad heads that may have issues or not flow properly.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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*EDIT* Not trying to turn this into the age old debate, but since you asked I'll throw in my opinion....

Don't forget to talk to Brian/Brent at TEA

May not be the "cheapest", but for(in your words)the "best bang for the buck" TEA gets my vote everytime.

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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Our brand new 5.7 Stg 1 heads just made 451 RWHP and sell for $999 exchange, now thats bang for the buck, and no one has better delivery or quality.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Save your money get you some afr cant beat them
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Our brand new 5.7 Stg 1 heads just made 451 RWHP and sell for $999 exchange, now thats bang for the buck, and no one has better delivery or quality.
Good luck with your HP Performance Twin Turbo kit, hopefully they have made some changed since we installed ours! Bob
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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With Dart, Edlebrock and Trick Flow all releasing a head at good prices very soon this will get interesting
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Our brand new 5.7 Stg 1 heads just made 451 RWHP and sell for $999 exchange, now thats bang for the buck, and no one has better delivery or quality.
What else was the setup on that car that made that power??
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
There's alot of options you could go with.

You could have your set cnc ported & setup with big valves to save $$. You could also go with a 5.3l style head with the chambers opened up to match your bore. The PRC heads now sell for $1450 & come completely hand finished & flow tested to make sure you get a perfect cylinder head. We also offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee on the heads. With the current time spent on the heads we can only ship one set of PRC heads a day, but I feel it's better to ship one set of good heads then 3-4 sets of bad heads that may have issues or not flow properly.

I have heard quite a few good things about the PRC's... keeping them in mind.
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We offer our LS6 style heads with Patriot Gold .650" springs, Ti retainers, REV stainless valves, Super 7 locks, and choice of custom chamber sizes for only $1,195.00 including new MLS GM head gaskets and new OEM head bolts. We also enclose a flow sheet for every set in the box...no tricks.

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Gunnar whats the quench with the MLS and a 59CC chamber...
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Gunnar whats the quench with the MLS and a 59CC chamber...

The quench using the MLS .055" gaskets will be .045".
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
Gunnar whats the quench with the MLS and a 59CC chamber...
Originally Posted by Gunnar@Patriot
The quench using the MLS .055" gaskets will be .045".
How did you come up with that number without knowing how far his pistons are in/out of the hole, AFAIK there is no way of determining quench without knowing this. (?)

Doesn't quench= head gasket thickness + or - piston height relative to deck surface?

Also, a GM Graphite gasket is ~.054, and GM MLS is ~.060 compressed.

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Also, to answer the original question, I would call TEA, Brian's customer service is second to none, and he will make 1000000% sure that you are not unhappy with his product, and TEA has a long history of heads producing/flowing like they are supposed to, without QC and performance issues other companies have had. Call them, you will not regret it.

Good luck, Shawn
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Well most stock pistons are out of the hole .005 to .007 so u guesstimate
Plus GM has a MLS in a .054 Spanky....
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Originally Posted by JS
Plus GM has a MLS in a .054 Spanky....
Part number? GM MLS #12498544 (the only GM MLS gasket that *I* have ever seen/heard of) is ~.060 compressed thickness (which I have actually measured on two seperate occasions and on two different gaskets). Click here.

Originally Posted by JS
Well most stock pistons are out of the hole .005 to .007 so u guesstimate
So, .060 - .005= .055 quench and .060 - .007 = .053 quench.

Neither of the above are anywhere near .045 quench (.008-.010 difference in quench is HUGE if you're trying to maximize your setup enough to where quench matters, IMO).

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