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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Is there any major weight difference between the two engines? I am trying to preserve the near perfect 50/50 weight ballence of the 240 and the LS1 is only about 12lbs heavier than the stock 4banger. I don't quite get what you are saying it the LS2 cheeper to resleave? I don't mean to sound like an idiot here but what cars had the LS2 in them? And just for the sake of my stupidity on the subject what are the differences between the LS1 and LS2? How much money would I be looking at for a stroker LS2?

The weight is the same within a few pounds. I've never weighed the two, but I be surprised to see more than a 1-2lb difference. The LS2 is better to resleeve because of cylinder wall thickness differences.

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kachok25
Just for kicks what would a long block for an LS7 cost? Way too much I know but just in case I inherit a million buck or somthig
LS7 crate motors come complete for around 13-14k IF you can find availabilty.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Nobody has really given me a streight anwser on the stroker (and only stroke) possability, can i run a longer stroke without runing a larger bore i would think i could but i am not sure.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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You can get 500 rwhp with a stock LS-1 if you buy the right heads, cam , and intake. You should be able to get all the parts you need within your budget, including forged pistons. The stock crank and rods will be fine for 500rwhp with a ARP main kit and rod bolts. I'm currently building a 454 LS2, and I promise you don't want into this money pit.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kachok25
Nobody has really given me a streight anwser on the stroker (and only stroke) possability, can i run a longer stroke without runing a larger bore i would think i could but i am not sure.
Yes, you can run a 4" stroke in a stock bore LS1. This will give you a 382. There not real big on peak HP, but there power under the curve is fairly nice. The thing is, is that most 382's cost just as much as a 402 stroker. All the same work is involved between the 2, so the prices are the same. The only diffrence is the price between the blocks, which is about $3-400.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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In a word, yes. Kits available for the LSx engines up to 4" of stroke, no boring.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro_SS
In a word, yes. Kits available for the LSx engines up to 4" of stroke, no boring.
Actually, kits are avalible to 4.125" stroke, stock bore, giving you a 396.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Magna charger makes the screw type blower. My friend has a 382 stroker and it makes good power, but I would go with the 402 for the extra couple hundred. The bottom of the sleeves needed to be notched to clear the rod bolts.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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What brands of heads cams and intake should I be looking for? I am not really familure with any of them, would that be a real streetable engien or would that be a little too peaky for a daily driver? I am still intrested in possably using a linger crank I can get a fully balenced rotating assembly from eagle with forged pistons and rods for $2500 cranks are avlable with up to a 4inch stroke if I decide to rebuild for boost purposes would that be the way to go? And how many extra ci yould that add?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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If I could afford it, right now I would be ordering, ETP 225 11 deg heads with a FAST 90/90, or the independent TB intake setup from down under (very spendy). The whole heads issue is still kind of up in the air for me, there is so much happening in that area right now. ETP is on top from what I have seen though.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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my buddy just threw down 540 rwhp with an ls6 NA, just need the right setup
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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ETP heads are on top of the game right now. www.etheads.com A set of there 225cc 11* heads along with a 23x/24X ish cam and a FAST 90mm intake would get you damn close to 500.

As for the 4" stroker, that will give you 382 ci's. Like I said earlier, by the time you get that done, you'd be right there at the cost of a LS2 402. I wouldn't want to boost up a 382 to much because of there over squareness. I would imagine it would wear the rings out fairly quickly.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Take the time to contact Steve at R.E.D. Race Engine development. He is very knowledgeable on the subject and will reply to your e-mails. The sleeves may not be as much as you would expect.
He is co-inventor of the sleeves that would be required for a 455 cu.in. LS1 4.125s X 4.190b
Race-Engine-Development@***.net

I am working with him on a 455 LS1......
Stay tuned.

Bob

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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What kind of mods would I have to do to the drivetrain to make a late model F body handel 500rwhp? Would I need an axle swap to handle 11in wide drag slicks on the weekends? What kind of tranny could I swap in to handle that, I somehow doubt a t56 is up to the task.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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t56 is up to it, but u would need a better rear end. so why do you "doubt" the t56 is up to it anyway, dodge uses that trans in the viper.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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I have heard from someone before that the t56 was not up to anything over 450hp
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Originally Posted by kachok25
What kind of mods would I have to do to the drivetrain to make a late model F body handel 500rwhp? Would I need an axle swap to handle 11in wide drag slicks on the weekends? What kind of tranny could I swap in to handle that, I somehow doubt a t56 is up to the task.
You'd need a 12-bolt rear end. The stock 10 bolt isn't even worth getting in to. The 12 bolt will run you ~$2300
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
You'd need a 12-bolt rear end. The stock 10 bolt isn't even worth getting in to. The 12 bolt will run you ~$2300
Is that a rebuilt or new? could I get one from a scrap yard and rebuild it myself
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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What cars came with a 12 bolt??
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kachok25
Is that a rebuilt or new? could I get one from a scrap yard and rebuild it myself
These are new rear ends from Strange or Moser. The old school rears won't work because they don't have the provisions for the LCA's, TQ arm, Calipers, or ABS.
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