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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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I tried a search but really didnt find what im looking for. Just wondering if anyone has gone with this kit from TSP? Sounds like it is perfect to get over 400rwhp but much easier on the springs than a MS3.

btw. i have pacesetter LTs, ORY, Corsa Catback, and lid.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Id like to know aswell, for this is the cam I am very interested in. I have lost a lt of interest in the MS3.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Whereas the MS3 has limited P/V clearance with certain heads (such as PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads...etc), the 233/239 will offer a little more clearance on a head with a bigger valve in it. Pretty much its left up to pure preference of the customer. As far as spring life and power there will not be a huge difference but the MS3 is definitly our most consistant and powerful stock displacement/compression cam. If you were to ask for an all out cam only setup on a stock cube motor, I would recommend you the MS3. Brian@Texas-Speed drives an MS3 daily in an A4 car and has put a ton of miles on the springs. If you guys have any more questions about these cams feel free to ask!

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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whats really the HP difference between the 233/239 and MS3?

i think having a option of larger valves in the future on my heads is worth the loss from the MS3
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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I can't give you an exact number because those two cams havent been compared in the same exact car, but I can tell you that the MS3 will make a few more hp and drive pretty much the same. Now, that being said, the MS3 will clear with aftermarket casting heads as well as PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads ($899). The MS3/Stg.1 LS6 combo is one of, if not the best "bang for the buck" combo on the market!!

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
I can't give you an exact number because those two cams havent been compared in the same exact car, but I can tell you that the MS3 will make a few more hp and drive pretty much the same. Now, that being said, the MS3 will clear with aftermarket casting heads as well as PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads ($899). The MS3/Stg.1 LS6 combo is one of, if not the best "bang for the buck" combo on the market!!

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What kind of power would we see with ms3 and stage 1 ls6 heads for 899?

How much power do you my stock ls6 heads would make with the ms3?

Finally how much power do the texas speed ls6 stage 1 heads make over the stock ls6 heads in my zo6.

-Zee
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You would see a very healthy gain with stock LS6 heads. It might take a while to search but im sure you can find some results with the MS3 in a Z06. As far as how much power the stage 1 LS6 heads will make over stock LS6 heads I can't say for sure, but they flow alot more volume of air throughout the rpm range compared to stock LS6 heads which in turn will net you a large gain in power. With this combo you will be satisfied with the power increase

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
I can't give you an exact number because those two cams havent been compared in the same exact car, but I can tell you that the MS3 will make a few more hp and drive pretty much the same. Now, that being said, the MS3 will clear with aftermarket casting heads as well as PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads ($899). The MS3/Stg.1 LS6 combo is one of, if not the best "bang for the buck" combo on the market!!

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I really like the 233/239 also. How much can you mill the LS1 heads with that cam?

Thanks...
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.030 would be probably a safe mill, but you really don't need anymore compression to make great use out of that cam or the MS3 really.
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
.030 would be probably a safe mill, but you really don't need anymore compression to make great use out of that cam or the MS3 really.
Since that base circle of that cam is a little smaller than stock (I think I saw someone in a previous post running 7.425's), will milling .030 get me down to 7.4 push rods?
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Originally Posted by FUN LS1
Since that base circle of that cam is a little smaller than stock (I think I saw someone in a previous post running 7.425's), will milling .030 get me down to 7.4 push rods?
yeap but it will also get into flycut territory
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Can you clay the pistons enough to measure accurately how much room you have to mill before you do it?
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