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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Default MS3 Cam install straight up or advanced?

Like the title says should I install this cam straight up or advanced? I will be running a 200 shot on this if that matters.

If I install it advanced do I need an adj timing chain or can I use a non adj one? Which Timing chain would you use?

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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You have to use an adjustable timing set, and from what I understand you do not want too much adavnce when on the hose.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I put put a little advance in it to bring the powerband down a little.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Is there any advance ground into it Dan?
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Is there any advance ground into it Dan?
Didn't even think of that, just talked with jon at TSP and he said straight up

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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If you don't advance the MS3, your dynamic compression will be horrible. Basically, it will be totally gutless NA.

When running nitrous, the motor responds to an earlier exhaust valve opening (because of the faster burn of nitrous). Here again, advancing the cam will benefit your goal of most power on the hose.
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If you don't advance the MS3, your dynamic compression will be horrible. Basically, it will be totally gutless NA.

When running nitrous, the motor responds to an earlier exhaust valve opening (because of the faster burn of nitrous). Here again, advancing the cam will benefit your goal of most power on the hose.

Hmm how much advanced? Like I said I talked with Jon at TSP and he said put it in straight up(dot to dot)

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SLPSS99
Hmm how much advanced? Like I said I talked with Jon at TSP and he said put it in straight up(dot to dot)

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You may want to get a few more opinions before you do that. I would also recommend you download the DCR spreadsheet (sticky in the Advanced Tech Section). You will be surprised how low your DCR will be with 0 advance built into that cam, not to mention how late your intake valve closing point. The late IVC (with 0 advance) is not going to give you the best area under the curve with an LS6 or FAST 90/90 intake manifold (if that's what you plan on running).
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Why does TSP say no advance if its sucks without advance? lol
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OK I have it figured out from a guy with my same setup and he installed it dot to dot and makes great powre on and off the bottle

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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If you start advancing that cam you need to check PTV.... FWIW I don't always find more power with making the exhaust valve opening event earlier, i'd rather play with the timing of the spark instead.

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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I feel like an ***...my response had nothing to do with your question I was confused. Sorry.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Yep, if you decide to advance it, make sure you have plenty of PtoV clearance on the Intake. It barely clears stock pistons at 0 advance, which is exactly why its made like that.
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