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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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ok so they say you can get 80hp from just a cam on a stock ls1? completely stock? everything clears? vavles/pistons, etc.? i am very interested in this cam. what is everyone thoughts on this cam?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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80HP? dammm...but maybe the fine print says, "but not for street" ha
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Not sure about totally stock or not. I know in the video from texas-speed, the engine dyno that they were on was hooked up to LT's. Whether or not they used the LT's to dyno with the stock cam or not, I don't know.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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i'm sure it was an 80 hp gain with supporting bolt-ons...

stock cam with bolt-ons + tune vs ms4 cam with bolt-ons + tune.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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yeah i looked closer at the video and supporting mods=fast intake. haha. yeah dont have 700 bucks for that thing. plus that would be at the fly with no accessories.

my goal is 400hp to the wheels with minor mods, like cam lt headers and ls6 intake. no head work, just upgrade the vavletrain. possible? so far i have ported tb, long tube headers, ls6, and thats about it.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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My ms3 gained 70 rwhp with long tubes, true duals, ported tb, pulley and tune. I do have the ls6 intake since I have an 01. The car put down 413 rwhp 380 tq through a 12 bolt moser and 4.10 gears.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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It's impossible to make 400whp cam only.
















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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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It's impossible to make 400whp cam only.

Yeah, it is if its like that trap in your aviator! ( I have owned some of those traps myself.... OOPS! )
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The FAST Intake wasn't used for cam-only pulls, it only added later on that day after we did a head swap and a few other cam swaps, so thats the wrong video for "cam-only" (That particular dyno video was 551hp at the flywheel with the MS4, PRC LS6 stage 1 heads and the out of the box FAST intake!). The before/after engine dyno testing for the MS4 was using stock 853 casting heads and a LS6 intake with stock unported TB/MAF. The headers used are purpose-built dyno headers from Kooks for engine dyno testing.

We'll be doing more engine dyno stuff in the future.
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Is it true that you have to replace your dual springs once a year
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Doski
Is it true that you have to replace your dual springs once a year
20-25k miles



Edit: Check them regularly for adequate pressure. This is assuming good springs capable of handling that lift.

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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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i just my cam in the other day and the specs are as follows

Dur. 239/242

lift int. .651/.610 ext.

lsa 111


i didnt know the lift was that high. last time i checked it was 649. but i dont know now about installin this cam. kinda scary.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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damn thats high!
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by formula402
i just my cam in the other day and the specs are as follows

Dur. 239/242

lift int. .651/.610 ext.

lsa 111


i didnt know the lift was that high. last time i checked it was 649. but i dont know now about installin this cam. kinda scary.
MS4??
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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that makes my trex look small lol!
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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I was thinking the lift was supposed to be .649 also. But when mine cam in yesterday the card said .651. Hell im not complaining.
Josh
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You most check PSV cleareance to make shure everithing is fine!!
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