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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Can some please shed a bit of light on these plugs. Getting a flashing SES light and #5 showed the most misfires. Only at cruise when in 5th & 6th. I know the picture is not the best but the darker plug is from # 5. I also pulled the #1 plug for comparison. As you can see #1 is clean and white and #5 is dark and brown.

These are new plugs with on a 100-150 miles on them. So with that I can see why #1 is so clean and nice. Next is a compression check for #5, to see if I have a problem there.


With the excessive brown on the insulator, I am thinking I might have damaged a ring gland, and now getting a bit (blow by) of oil in the cylinder.

Note: had a 1/4 inch of oil in my catch can after the 100-150 miles, can was empty-ed and cleaned when all plugs were replaced.

My A/F is about 11.8-12.0 @ WOT So I am sure it is not a lean condition.



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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Kinda stating the obvious, but could #5 be incorrectly gapped? I would check that, as well as the compression test to see if you're getting blow-by, check the wire to #5 to see that it's not damaged... could be things that aren't so major as damaged ringlands.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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I had a bad injector so the same thing to #3 for me, it cut in and out. I manage to find it with the help of a tech 1. It drove me nuts for a week. Good luck.

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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Kinda stating the obvious, but could #5 be incorrectly gapped? I would check that, as well as the compression test to see if you're getting blow-by, check the wire to #5 to see that it's not damaged... could be things that aren't so major as damaged ringlands.
I hope, swapped over the wire and coil to another cylinder going to to do a Auto Tap run tomorrow.

I thought of a injector as well, but I don't think that would be the cause of the dark brown color would it. Looks like oil, but might swap a injector as well if the Auto Tap Run dose not point to any thing.

Gaps are right on,,,
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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#1 looks lean, bleached white porcelain. Both have carbon deposits on the facing of the plug (the flat portion on the end of the threads). Almost looks like you have a timing mark about to show on #1 (the line of color change on the grounding strap), but cant really tell from being so faint.
I recommend you put the plugs in, check it with your Tech. Then taking your camera with you, go do a WOT BLAST, pull thru as long as you can "legally" and safely, a good two three will work. As soon as you get off the WOT, shut the car down, pull the plugs and snap a picture, try to do a macro from the mid-threaded portion up. A nice side shot and a front (holding it so the grounding strap can be seen with the "gap" to one side or another, and for the front use a slight 20* angle looking down at the porcelain with the gap facing you). The WOT blast is necessary for a fueling and timing reading, as well as when you let off if you coast with the engine on it will "wash" away any deposits, timing marks etc.. I will try to remember to check back here, via subscribe, but if you post and I dont catch it in 30min pm me please. Thanks and GL

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Any updates?
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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No not yet, but you will be the 1st to know pic,s PM ect. THANKS for your input-concern.

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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Well as luck would have it. After swapping plugs, coil, wire. Still had misfire on #5. Preformed a compression check and my thoughts were confirmed. 65psi. 1,3,7 were 150-160. Did not even bother to look at the Rh side.

I new it was only a matter of time, but did not think it would have happened so soon.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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so now its time to get a leak down tester and see what it really turns out to be.
or you could do the "wet" compression test
my lowest compression reading was 80psi
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