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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Alright I am confused on which heads to go with on my ls6 motor....I have a MS3 cam and would like to get a set of heads that would give me the greatest hp/tq gains. Which ones do you guys recomend? Money isnt a factor here so whichever heads are the best I would want.
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There are a number of good cylinder heads on the market, but to me the AFR 205's are a solid winner.
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Ok so are those better than the et heads?
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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There are a number of good cylinder heads on the market, but to me the AFR 205's are a solid winner.
True! Plus Tony Mamo @ AFR is the best at helping us guys out.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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Yeah I might have to give him a call. But, I was wondering how the et's stack up against the afrs?
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ET's don't have as much proven performance as AFRs. AFR's have been around for along time and put down solid number after number. The ETP heads look very promising, however, there are just not as many people running them on this board as AFRs.

Remember, with the MS3 cam you WILL have to flycut the pistons if going with the AFR's (same goes for the Darts). The ETP heads (and Trickflow I believe) have more PV clearance than stock so you will NOT have to flycut the pistons. ETP has a head with a 215 intake runner that I think would rock the **** out of the MS3 if you did not want to flycut.

That being said, if you are going to spend money on one of the best sets of heads for the LSx market, flycut your pistons yourself or pay someone to do it and go with the AFR 205s. There is a guy on here, allngn_c5, who put down 473 rwhp 431 rwtq with AFR 205s, a similar sized cam (g5x3) and a fast 90/90 setup with all the other bolt ons. I'm not saying your numbers would necessarily be that high, but you could definately get up there. I don't think I've seen an MS3 with a set of 205s yet
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if money is no object then a set of ET heads and a custom spec'd cam would be my route.
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I would also go with a custom grind with a set of ET heads to get the max out of your motor.I have a set of ET 225 for a 3.90 bore brand new on the shelf 57cc chambers.But there 225 and there more geared for an aggressive 346 or someone that has a power adder setup.These heads N/A still will put down killer numbers.
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Wow thanks guys for the very informative information! I have been wondering what heads to go with to get the best performance out of my 346 ls6 and I think I have decided on the ET 215's. The reason I do not want to go with the afr's is because I really do not want to have to flycut my pistons just yet. Also, how much more rwhp/tq am I going to be getting out of the ET's than say the PRC LS6 stage 1 heads from texas speed?
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what about dart,s?
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 02:26 AM
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Afr 205/225!
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cnc'd darts, AFR's, Trickflows, ETP's, umm who else?
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Wow thanks guys for the very informative information! I have been wondering what heads to go with to get the best performance out of my 346 ls6 and I think I have decided on the ET 215's. The reason I do not want to go with the afr's is because I really do not want to have to flycut my pistons just yet. Also, how much more rwhp/tq am I going to be getting out of the ET's than say the PRC LS6 stage 1 heads from texas speed?
If both combos are set up the same, Id say you MAY gain about 10rwhp with the ETs or AFRs vs the TSP PRC LS6 heads. Thats just an educated guess.... There has yet to be a back to back comparo between the three.
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Here's the deal, by electing to not fly cut, you are limiting your power potential regardless of which head you choose. Ideally, you'll want your static compression to be around 11.5:1. To get that, you'll need a 59cc chamber and a .040" head gasket.

Here's the rub, only the ET 215 and PRC 243 heads (with stock valve sizes) even have a prayer of giving you enough P to V clearance with a cam of that duration. At 59cc, I'm afraid that even those heads may not give you enough. Consider flycutting.

In a nutshell, a head with a compression advantage will often make more power than a head with a flow advantage. I would take a PRC 243 head at 59cc over an AFR 205 head at 66cc. Compression has the advantage in this case. If money is no object, then certainly you'll have the resources to flycut your pistons and run the best flowing head at the smaller combustion chamber size.

If you had no P to V clearance isssues, I would go with the head that had the best flow in the .300-.500" range. Most flow comparisons I've seen show the ET heads having the biggest advantage in this area.
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Ok thanks for the info..so I should get the ET's but in a high compression?
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I'm goin with some cartek stage 3 ls6's
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