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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Whats your numbers with one in a 6 speed with 4.10's or lower gearing.

I drove a car last night with this combo, some stepped headers and he told me he only made 385 peak torque. But made 440 something HP. I did some exhaust work with just some mufflers right off the headers and drove it to check for banging issues. Sounded good and was strong to the Butt meter but it didnt make any torque on the dyno numbers. I thought a cam with the HP it made would have some better valve events to make some more torque across the band. Then again maybe thats why it needs 4.56 gears and it only has a short power band..
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Whats your numbers with one in a 6 speed with 4.10's or lower gearing.

I drove a car last night with this combo, some stepped headers and he told me he only made 385 peak torque. But made 440 something HP. I did some exhaust work with just some mufflers right off the headers and drove it to check for banging issues. Sounded good and was strong to the Butt meter but it didnt make any torque on the dyno numbers. I thought a cam with the HP it made would have some better valve events to make some more torque across the band. Then again maybe thats why it needs 4.56 gears and it only has a short power band..
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And yes, the person/shop who tuned the car is still learning the tuning stuff. So i know for a fact his driveabilty sucks and im sure his A/F is probably flatlined hence not making as much torque as it could. What are the norms for torque numbers with these cams.
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I think around 380 to 400rwtq is going to be a ballpark figure for a cam that size with no head work. Hell, Thunders very own dyno only showed 406tq with 450+hp. If he had his heads milled down he could bump up the compression or he could run an aftermarket cast head like AFR or DART and mill them down. Either way, he'll have to flycut but I think he could get 420+rwtq that way, esp. if the AFR or Darts were with a 205 intake runner. I'm sure some others with more knowledge on this will chime in as well.
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I think around 380 to 400rwtq is going to be a ballpark figure for a cam that size with no head work. Hell, Thunders very own dyno only showed 406tq with 450+hp. If he had his heads milled down he could bump up the compression or he could run an aftermarket cast head like AFR or DART and mill them down. Either way, he'll have to flycut but I think he could get 420+rwtq that way, esp. if the AFR or Darts were with a 205 intake runner. I'm sure some others with more knowledge on this will chime in as well.
I ask because its seems the G5XX stuff was making more torque and had a broader more user friendly curve.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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The T-Rex has a little too late of an intake valve closing point to make maximum area under the curve. The 109-110LSA certainly helps, but with an IVC of around 49 degrees ABDC at .050", it's a little late to work in harmony with the tuned runner length of the LS6 or FAST intake. An IVC between 44-46 degrees seems to be closer to ideal when working with these intakes. FWIW, a G5X-3 on a 112 has an IVC of 45 degrees ABDC at .050"...a little closer to ideal.
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i just took a look at my cam card on a torquer 2 on a 112 and it is 48*.i wonder if i need to make a cam change before i even put it in ?
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My comp custom grind was based on the trex, made more tq. than I thought it would

242/248 .610/.615 110+2 lsa

432rwhp/396rwtq through a locked 4l60e w/ a tci 4400 convertor
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