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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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I got to hear BlackHawk J's car after the cam went in, and the idle was VERY smooth and stock-sounding. I wouldn't have thought it was cam'd if I hadn't known better.

So SS4Luck, I would say it sounds essentially just like a stock motor.

BlackHawk J, you have a very nice car by the way!

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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by noxiouSS
Was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this combo. It sounds like everything i want, around 400 at the wheels, stock drivability, and decently priced. But is it to good to be true?
looking for any feed back
Is this cam a better choice than the"old man" cam that they also offer? Does anyone know how the two cams compare?

Thanks
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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sweet im definatly going to look into this setup
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Thanks for the compliments. One of the gentlemen there told me that they tested it on a stock LS1 and the cam made 360 hp to the wheels. I just drove out there today (forgot my stock parts there, oops), and I can say it pulls real nicely in 6th on the highway. There is definately a seat of the pants feel and the sound effects are cool too! I dont have a sound clip but I can tell you it racks up bonus points in the sound department.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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how would this cam compare in performance to say the 224/224 @ 114???
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMFormula
how would this cam compare in performance to say the 224/224 @ 114???
The cheaTR runs within .1 & 1 MPH of my old F13 113LSA and it idles 100% better.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMFormula
how would this cam compare in performance to say the 224/224 @ 114???

They are both preety muchthe same .. But the Cheater is Harder on Your Stock Springs & such other things from what i have Read
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Z2K_MrJ
They are both preety muchthe same .. But the Cheater is Harder on Your Stock Springs & such other things from what i have Read
Thunder Racing Custom "CheaTR" Camshaft - 214/230 .601/.578 117 LSA
With that much lift there is no way I would even think of using stock springs.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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NO stock springs are not recomanded with almost any cam.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NEVR2ND
The cheaTR runs within .1 & 1 MPH of my old F13 113LSA and it idles 100% better.
that is saying alot man
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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The cheaTR cam package comes with comp cams dual valve springs, titanium retainers and new push rods. So you can replace most of the valvetrain and breath easy.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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wow, hot topic, and loads o info with just the 31,,,heres another question about the cheater,,,how would this compare to a reverse split,,,i know the exhaust in our stock heads is weak compared to the intake, so, if not going with heads, would i be better with a reverse instead of the cheater? i know,,,damn newbies.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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nevermind,,i just looked at the thing, and seen the 214/230,,i think i may have just answered my own post.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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so what does this cam need in the way of heads to push it to the 400+rwhp mark?will a set of stage 2 patriots do the trick?
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1psycho
so what does this cam need in the way of heads to push it to the 400+rwhp mark?will a set of stage 2 patriots do the trick?
I have the same question.. especially with stage 2 heads being on sale for $1095. I'm thing a $369 cam plus $1095 heads sounding stock and stealthy would be the best value ever.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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My stage II patriot & CheatR combo makes 388 rwhp through a 12-bolt. Through a 10-bolt I bet it would be 400 rwhp. A fast intake would probably put me over 400 also. So yes, I think you can do it with the Patriots. If you run headers you will be well over 400, but if i was going to run headers I would choose another cam.
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