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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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I'm wondering if i can pick up some more power by running some 100-104 unleaded gas?

LME 347 11:1 comp.
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Are you getting knock retard?
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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No, you will probably lose power.
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I was told 93 is fine,that the 100-104 octane is bad for the O2 sensors.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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I was told 93 is fine,that the 100-104 octane is bad for the O2 sensors.
leaded is bad for 02s not unleaded race fuel


unless you need the extra octane dont bother
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Cartek told me 93 is good.They claim high octane will ruin the O2's
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Originally Posted by peterock98
Cartek told me 93 is good.They claim high octane will ruin the O2's
yes leaded will harm them over time
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetStalker
I'm wondering if i can pick up some more power by running some 100-104 unleaded gas?

LME 347 11:1 comp.
What problems are you having that make you think you need the increased resistance to predetonation? Is your engine throwing a knock sensor code?
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Originally Posted by StreetStalker
I'm wondering if i can pick up some more power by running some 100-104 unleaded gas?

LME 347 11:1 comp.
Probably not. 11:1 is usually fine on pump gas. No need for race gas unless you have SUPER high compression and youre getting ping or youre tuner kept your timing low to combat ping.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Nah! no KR just starting a thread to get something different going. I was curious as to see if the car would perk up a bit with it but on the other side with a stock comp. motor i have seen cars slow down a tad because the motor would run hotter temps. and negate the benefits of running higher octane gas.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Motors make peak HP on the brink of detonation. Adding octane will pull you further away from detonation, thus loosing power. Adding octane will make the mixture burn slower, and without tuning to run higher timing to burn it, it will not help. Always run the least amount of octane you can get away with.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Will you gain hp? only if you have knock retard taking place.
Motors that have been on race gas are nice to take apart, they smell good and everything is cleaner. However, I have seen cars slow down on race fuel because they lacked the compression. High octane fuel will not hurt o2's, leaded fuel will ruin them quick.
11:1 347, unless your cam is tiny I would save the money, unleaded race fuel is expensive.
It would be worth the money with a big dose of nitrous or a motor that makes a lot of horsepower in a hot climate. High horsepower motors break things when they detonate.
Like Beast96Z mentioned, Your best horsepower is when your on the ragged edge of detonation.
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Are you getting knock retard?
Almost sounds like a shot at his abilities! haha.
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you will benefit from it if you up the timing otherwise kind of pointless
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Run some VP C-12 through it. You will see a little bit more power. That is Leaded Fuel by the way though.
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A buddy smoked his o2`s in aa `97 LT-1 with VP 102 leadded gas,so beware. Usually you need more than 91 when you have 1- hi compression, 2- lots of timing, 3-injection NOS For stock or a tic above you usually don`t see enought to justify the cost of it. The same buddy crushed a piston on 150 shot of NOS wile running 91 octane in his `01 WS-6, so BEWARE, that is all I can say and stress.
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