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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
The rubber band ends up snug between the head and the pushrod. This way it holds the lower half of the tool in place so that it doesn't turn with the upper half as you're taking up the length. You'll see what I mean when you go to it.
The rubber band thing worked great. I ended up with 7.288 + .030 (Lunati Lifter)= 7.318. I ordered the comp 7794 pushrod which is 7.325 which will leave me with .037 preload. Should be good I would think.
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkHwk
The rubber band thing worked great. I ended up with 7.288 + .030 (Lunati Lifter)= 7.318. I ordered the comp 7794 pushrod which is 7.325 which will leave me with .037 preload. Should be good I would think.
Cool. Once you figure out what the rubber band is for, you don't have to remove the rocker to lengthen the PR tool. Props!
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Mine didn't come with a rubber band I just found one that would work. Thanks
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Just for your info. I sent my adjustable pushrod to Smith Bros. and had them add 0.045 preload. Came out to 3.750. I have different rockers, the end result is I might have used more preload - my valve train is noisy.
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If you determined 7.35 at 0 lash, then add .080 preload (average) and you got 7.455
so like i said either 7.425 or 7.450 (choose your poison)
I checked it again today with some dial calipers and it was a little shorter than what I thought yesterday.. I'm gonna use some 7.35's and see how that works.

I borrowed some stock pushrods today and tried them just to see how they fit. You can't even bolt down the rocker arms to the stand because the pushrod is way way way too long. I sat the pushrods in and laid the rockers on top of them and rotated the motor 2 complete times and the pushrods never went down far enough for the rocker arms to sit down on the stand..

So there is no way in hell that a 7.425 would work at all...
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Don't forget to check with your lifter manufacturer to check preload. This will make a difference.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 1QuickT-A
I checked it again today with some dial calipers and it was a little shorter than what I thought yesterday.. I'm gonna use some 7.35's and see how that works.

I borrowed some stock pushrods today and tried them just to see how they fit. You can't even bolt down the rocker arms to the stand because the pushrod is way way way too long. I sat the pushrods in and laid the rockers on top of them and rotated the motor 2 complete times and the pushrods never went down far enough for the rocker arms to sit down on the stand..

So there is no way in hell that a 7.425 would work at all...
As I said:

IF your 0 lash measurement is 7.375 THEN add preload.
If your 0 lash measurement is wrong then it is another story.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
As I said:

IF your 0 lash measurement is 7.375 THEN add preload.
If your 0 lash measurement is wrong then it is another story.
The pushrod tool shows 11 complete turns which comes up to 7.350 if I figured that correctly.. I remeasured the pushrod with a dial caliper at 11 turns and thats what I got..

I also took a stock ls1 lifter and measured the preload on it and got twenty thousanths out of it.. A reputable shop also told me that twenty thousanths of preload is all that an LSX engine would need. No more than that..

So I guess that I really need a 7.375...
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If you determined 7.35 at 0 lash, then add .080 preload (average) and you got 7.455
so like i said either 7.425 or 7.450 (choose your poison)
So you are saying that a 7.425 should fit with .080 of preload IF my measurement of 7.350 is correct?? Well, I'm pretty confident that my measurement of 7.350 is correct and I'm also pretty positive that a 7.425 has no chance of fitting considering a stock 7.400 pushrod didn't even come close to working.. But, I do think that a 7.375 would work perfectly fine especially after we tested a stock lifter and only got twenty thousanths worth of movement out of the plunger.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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.020 movement, yeah right???
I measured preload on a stock motor and it was .1 and stock lifters can handle up to .120 (I use as close to .080 to leave a little room on pump up with a higher reving cam)

But are you using stock rockers?

Duh, I just read the post again and you are using Jessels. My mistake ,

Still they are non adjustable, 7.40's should work and give you .050 preload.
THAT is if 7.350 is CORRECT at 0 lash.
Now since you say that 7.40 are so long that the rocker wont even bolt on, then i doubt you have the 7.350 measurement correct.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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i have the comp pushrod checker and im going to set it out to 7.30 then bolt down the rocker and check the thousands on the rocker to valve spot. I think this way will be most acurate and with comp rs I dont have much room to play with.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
.020 movement, yeah right???
I measured preload on a stock motor and it was .1 and stock lifters can handle up to .120 (I use as close to .080 to leave a little room on pump up with a higher reving cam)

But are you using stock rockers?

Duh, I just read the post again and you are using Jessels. My mistake ,

Still they are non adjustable, 7.40's should work and give you .050 preload.
THAT is if 7.350 is CORRECT at 0 lash.
Now since you say that 7.40 are so long that the rocker wont even bolt on, then i doubt you have the 7.350 measurement correct.
We put the stock lifter in a vice and it had .020 movement and then the lifter was trying to push out of the vice.. I talked to a few reputable shops and 2 of them said that .020 would be plenty of preload. They also said I wouldnt be able to tell a difference with 7.350 or 7.375 pushrods..

With the pushrod checker 11 complete turns out you get 7.350.. When I had it in the head with the rocker arms bolted down there was no slack in the rocker arm at all and the geometry looked fine. I even called a ProModified racer and engine builder and he came and looked at it and said everything looked and felt fine.
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