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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Ok stop bench racing and read...a stock ls1 will put down 300+ rwhp. Toss in all the bolt-ons, a good sized cam, and a 100 shot, and your looking at almost 500 rwhp...thats MORE than enough to run low 11's, even high 10's. In addition, there are guys with moderate weight reduction done that are running 10's cam only. Seriously not trying to rag on you but you really cant go by those calculators, they arent bad but they dont apply to all real world applications.

Check out your sig of your old car, 98 Z28 NBM M6, magnaflow cb, Mac headers, catted y (gutted now), Pro 5.0, SCC SS Hood, 18 chrome z06's, STB, MSD wires and NGK plugs, 232/238 cam, ls6 intake, ported stock TB, 25% pulley, ls7 clutch/ls2 flywheel, UMI panhard rod, UMI lca's, weld-in sfc, 370 rwhp/356 rwtq 98 heads

Add a 100 shot of nitrous and you would only have 450rwhp, wouldnt you say that you had healthy boltons? What were you running with your car?
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Thunder Racing Custom "TRAK" Camshaft - 231/234 .640/.590 112 LSA 2400-6800 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. 3200+ stall, 3.42+ gear, computer tuning required. Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended. Comp 921 Valve Springs are highly recommended.


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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pedal2themedal
Check out your sig of your old car, 98 Z28 NBM M6, magnaflow cb, Mac headers, catted y (gutted now), Pro 5.0, SCC SS Hood, 18 chrome z06's, STB, MSD wires and NGK plugs, 232/238 cam, ls6 intake, ported stock TB, 25% pulley, ls7 clutch/ls2 flywheel, UMI panhard rod, UMI lca's, weld-in sfc, 370 rwhp/356 rwtq 98 heads

Add a 100 shot of nitrous and you would only have 450rwhp, wouldnt you say that you had healthy boltons? What were you running with your car?
With most cam setups and a 100 shot you will see almost 100 hp to the wheels depending on which kit you go with. Also, my car was on a very conservative dyno, whereas it would probably read around 385 rwhp on most dynojets. In addition, I had a 98, which had THE worst flowing heads of any year out there. An 02 ls1 would probably see an addition 10-15 rwhp with the bette rflowing heads, which would put the 02 at almost 400 rwhp, toss in a 100 wet shot (say TNT) and you will see almost 100 hp to the wheels, so your now in the 500 rwhp neighborhood. I never got a chance to get my car back to the track after the cam install as I was never using the car due to work, so unfortunately I dont have any time slips for my cammed setup. Again im not trying to argue dyno numbers with you but different engines will respond differently so the results from those calculators need to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by pedal2themedal
Check out your sig of your old car, 98 Z28 NBM M6, magnaflow cb, Mac headers, catted y (gutted now), Pro 5.0, SCC SS Hood, 18 chrome z06's, STB, MSD wires and NGK plugs, 232/238 cam, ls6 intake, ported stock TB, 25% pulley, ls7 clutch/ls2 flywheel, UMI panhard rod, UMI lca's, weld-in sfc, 370 rwhp/356 rwtq 98 heads

Add a 100 shot of nitrous and you would only have 450rwhp, wouldnt you say that you had healthy boltons? What were you running with your car?
What you dont understand is, its not 100 Hp at 2200 RPMS, or even 4500 RPMS... Its 100 HP all through out the RPM range. And if he only had 370 HP for a cammed, exhaust, intake car I believe that could be a wrong read. Right now I have probably around 350 with just headers and exhaust, once I go cam and heads I expect 400 ish. With 400ish + 100 shot + tires + rear end + clutch I GUARANTEE thats a mid 10 sec car all day long if you can drive.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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Also a 10 second time slip is gauranteed with any amount of HP. There are guys with 400 rwhp running 10's while there are guys with 500 rwhp running 11's as its all due to the setup (tranny, rear end, tires, suspension, etc). 500 rwhp isnt going to garauntee 10's but its def enough power to get you there with the right setup.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
Also a 10 second time slip is gauranteed with any amount of HP. There are guys with 400 rwhp running 10's while there are guys with 500 rwhp running 11's as its all due to the setup (tranny, rear end, tires, suspension, etc). 500 rwhp isnt going to garauntee 10's but its def enough power to get you there with the right setup.
Agreed.. Now can we plz go back on topic.. Cam heads??? anybody?? suggestions on what to get?

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whats does the +2 mean here : 228/232 110 +2
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the plus 2 means that there is +2 degrees advance ground into the cam. I say go with a combo such as the MS3 or MS4 and the PRC terminator heads. If you look in the dyno section there is a guy making over 470 rwhp with the combo, fast 90/90, LTs, etc. there are so many choices out there though that it depends on what your looking for but that combo would be good for 11's all day and with a 100 shot you could see 10's with the right suspension/rear/tranny
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where can i get the ms3 or ms4 combo and heads?
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TSP has them: www.texas-speed.com
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Also didnt mean to get your thread off track, just had to comment on some of the posts....
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its ok dont worry about it..

Texas Speed Torquer v.2 Camshaft 232/234 .595/.598 - should I get 112 or 114 LSA? I was considering 114, because I dont really my dad to know Im getting a cam, but I know 112 will have a nicer power band right? Is it that much of a difference?
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My buddy has bolt ons, and cam only running 11.30 all day. Its an FM13. Its an auto, with ET streets and interior gutted. Carpet, center console, seats, door panels. All the goodies. I think 3.42s also.
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Now that I have read the rest. hehe, I have well, look at the sig. I will have numbers for dyno here really soon. Then track times soon after that.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Joey7489
its ok dont worry about it..

Texas Speed Torquer v.2 Camshaft 232/234 .595/.598 - should I get 112 or 114 LSA? I was considering 114, because I dont really my dad to know Im getting a cam, but I know 112 will have a nicer power band right? Is it that much of a difference?
Once you put any healthy combo in there, your dad is going to know its cammed.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DVSWS6
Once you put any healthy combo in there, your dad is going to know its cammed.

definitly true......if you want something seriously unnoticeable look at something like the cheatr cam.
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what heads should i run with that cam?
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