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03-15-2008, 04:52 AM
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I thought that on a stock bottom end even with the trick flow valve angle being like 13 degrees giving more ptv clearence it would still hit with an ms4? Also the valves on the intake are alot bigger which would even cause you to have less ptv clearence. That was my thoughts on that combo.
03-15-2008, 09:35 AM
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it will hit its got way bigger valves than stock. u will have to flycut i looked into it extensively and mase alot of phonecalls seems like with the ms4 stg1 prc's or livernois stg2's will fit. tfs will frickin rip with ms4 though i've heard in excess of 500 rwhp with that setup i have ms4 on my 02 z06 i put sae corrected 436 403 on mustang dyno with lt's and unported fast.
03-15-2008, 01:24 PM
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it will hit its got way bigger valves than stock. u will have to flycut i looked into it extensively and mase alot of phonecalls seems like with the ms4 stg1 prc's or livernois stg2's will fit. tfs will frickin rip with ms4 though i've heard in excess of 500 rwhp with that setup i have ms4 on my 02 z06 i put sae corrected 436 403 on mustang dyno with lt's and unported fast.
That's 494/463 dynojet if you converted those numbers from the mustang dyno I use.
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03-15-2008, 05:23 PM
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What % were you using to convert his numbers from a mustang dyno to dynojey cuz i did 468 412 on a mustang dyno. Which means id be over 500 on a dynojet with just some 5.3l heads.
Did you use like 13%. I always thought it was around 8-10%.
Did you use like 13%. I always thought it was around 8-10%.
03-15-2008, 06:16 PM
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Guess it depends on the dynos. The one we use is around 13% difference from thew local dynojets on almost every car.
03-15-2008, 08:58 PM
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I used the TFS milled down to 58cc with my MS3 before with plenty of clearance. I know Vegeance has used cams that's even bigger than the MS3 with the TFS milled down to 58cc.
03-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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Another car I ran accross made 440 on that same mustang dyno and made 380 later the SAME day on a dynojet.
Moral of the story, mustang dynos can easily be manipulated to lower, or increase the number if someone knows what they are doing (or doesnt know what they are doing). a dynojet is usually more accurate as far as numbers go.
You CANT just say numbers will be x% higher on a dynojet, cause in my case (and I have sheets if you want to see them) I made less on 2 different dyno jet's then the mustang.
03-16-2008, 09:49 PM
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no robz thats totally stock 243 heads on my car. the ms4 is no joke...race proven motorsports put my car together and it frickin rips mods are in sig but it went 11.9@ 124 with street tires and 2.1 60'
with fast 90/90 and 4.10 gears