KnockOut Box scores 1st round TKO!!!
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Kalamazoo, MI
KnockOut Box scores 1st round TKO!!! I just spent several hours tooling around town to dial in my setup. Since my warranty replacemnet engine wasn't gettin it. I put the goodies back on (see sig) @ 200 miles!
Just before the former powerplant went down I had a custom Y-pipe made w/ C&L cats. With the addition on the worked over headers, custom Y and second gen McCord power cutout valve.. I had some MAFT adjusting to do. In the process I found I had picked up a fair amount of false knock. I did everything imaginable to make it go away but it stuck around at low levels 2-4 (degrees). I decide to try Tony's (Nine Ball) knockout box.
It was an easy install and the price was right!
With 1600+ lines of ATAP and approx 60 WOT I never had any occurances of KR at ALL! Nothin, nada, ziltch absolutely 0!
If ya wanna see my data in a web page form go here: (scan to right to see summary)** I removed all lines with less than 50% TPS to make it more viewable.
http://www.mindspring.com/~trehr/NOVTUNE.htm
Ahh yes it feels good to have it shomewhat dialed in ...Thanks Tony!
Off to the dyno on Wed to see what she's good for!
Todd Rehr XLRATE
'99 30th Anniversary TA WS6 (#1118)- M6: MTI lid, FRA, TB bypass, Ported and polished TB, Cooling Fan Switch,MAF ends, Power Cutout, K&N, 4:10s,MOBIL 1, Nitto DRs, Pro5.0 w/ blue MBA billet **** & Firebat 30th decals, SLP underive Pulley, MORE stage 2 CNC heads (2.08/1.60) & Cam (comp 216/220 - 525/532) & top end package, Boxed LCAs, LS6 intake, Fernco Mod, Mac Headers and custom Y pipe (C&L high flow cats and FM collector), Ed Wright programming, Star Stage 2 clutch.
[ November 15, 2001: Message edited by: TRehr ]</p>
Just before the former powerplant went down I had a custom Y-pipe made w/ C&L cats. With the addition on the worked over headers, custom Y and second gen McCord power cutout valve.. I had some MAFT adjusting to do. In the process I found I had picked up a fair amount of false knock. I did everything imaginable to make it go away but it stuck around at low levels 2-4 (degrees). I decide to try Tony's (Nine Ball) knockout box.
It was an easy install and the price was right!
With 1600+ lines of ATAP and approx 60 WOT I never had any occurances of KR at ALL! Nothin, nada, ziltch absolutely 0!
If ya wanna see my data in a web page form go here: (scan to right to see summary)** I removed all lines with less than 50% TPS to make it more viewable.
http://www.mindspring.com/~trehr/NOVTUNE.htm
Ahh yes it feels good to have it shomewhat dialed in ...Thanks Tony!
Off to the dyno on Wed to see what she's good for!
Todd Rehr XLRATE
'99 30th Anniversary TA WS6 (#1118)- M6: MTI lid, FRA, TB bypass, Ported and polished TB, Cooling Fan Switch,MAF ends, Power Cutout, K&N, 4:10s,MOBIL 1, Nitto DRs, Pro5.0 w/ blue MBA billet **** & Firebat 30th decals, SLP underive Pulley, MORE stage 2 CNC heads (2.08/1.60) & Cam (comp 216/220 - 525/532) & top end package, Boxed LCAs, LS6 intake, Fernco Mod, Mac Headers and custom Y pipe (C&L high flow cats and FM collector), Ed Wright programming, Star Stage 2 clutch.
[ November 15, 2001: Message edited by: TRehr ]</p>
Re: KnockOut Box scores 1st round TKO!!! Glad I could help, Todd. Thanks for posting the results! I simply took someone else's idea about desensitizing the sensors, redesigned the wiring schematic and resistance values to remove the pesky ground wires, and packaged it up for myself. I was having a ton of Knock Retard issues when trying to run open headers at the track. After guys locally around here started asking me to make one for them, I realized that this could help out alot of people. Simple and effective, for a reasonable price.
Knockout Box!
Tony <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Knockout Box!
Tony <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Re: KnockOut Box scores 1st round TKO!!! Man, I just looked at your AutoTap data, WOW! I'm envious of those numbers:
LFTF B1 0 avg for fuel trim cells 1-19
LFTF B2 0 avg for fuel trim cells 1-19
B1 & B2 0 avg LFTF for fuel trim cells 1-19
O2 B1S1 0.880882 avg WOT B1S1
O2 B2S1 0.890392 avg WOT B2S1
0.885637 avg WOT O2's
Avg. WOT Timing: 29.35
KR: 0 occurrences (over 3 degrees)
#DIV/0! average KR (over 3 degrees)
-The last line cracks me up. I'm guessing the software that computes the average is not used to seeing a big fat "0" in the KR column, otherwise they could have programmed it to read "none" if there were no value. LOL! Awesome numbers, good job with the tuning!
Tony
LFTF B1 0 avg for fuel trim cells 1-19
LFTF B2 0 avg for fuel trim cells 1-19
B1 & B2 0 avg LFTF for fuel trim cells 1-19
O2 B1S1 0.880882 avg WOT B1S1
O2 B2S1 0.890392 avg WOT B2S1
0.885637 avg WOT O2's
Avg. WOT Timing: 29.35
KR: 0 occurrences (over 3 degrees)
#DIV/0! average KR (over 3 degrees)
-The last line cracks me up. I'm guessing the software that computes the average is not used to seeing a big fat "0" in the KR column, otherwise they could have programmed it to read "none" if there were no value. LOL! Awesome numbers, good job with the tuning!
Tony
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Kalamazoo, MI
Re: KnockOut Box scores 1st round TKO!!! Jeff,
I was very close ... but since I added headers, LS6 intake and a custom ECM from Ed Wright. I hope to see the good side of 400 rwhp!
Tony's knockout box was a clean 5 minute install even without the GM connectors. This is a 5 star product that isn't out to fleece us "rich" LS1 owners! <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
Todd
I was very close ... but since I added headers, LS6 intake and a custom ECM from Ed Wright. I hope to see the good side of 400 rwhp!
Tony's knockout box was a clean 5 minute install even without the GM connectors. This is a 5 star product that isn't out to fleece us "rich" LS1 owners! <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
Todd
