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CougarL92 02-24-2007 11:34 AM

Afr's !!!

CougarL92 02-24-2007 11:34 AM

225's are Proven heads

mr2guru 02-25-2007 06:46 PM

I just picked up a custom set of LS6 style patriots (57cc) and they are some of the better looking sets of ported heads I've seen come through here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../chambers1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ambers57cc.jpg

cowboysfan 02-25-2007 09:52 PM

I got ls6, cnc, 57cc, 2.02/1.57 patriots flowing@ 302 int. 238 exh. w/ 231/237 comp cam. 418rwhp/389rwtq. tuned on dyno mustang. I know it would o up w/ 90/90 setup. .02


fuerzaws6 :drive:

SSDoubleK 05-19-2007 11:06 AM

Well I have a brand new set of LS6 Patriot heads, just waiting to be put on, I'll give my results when I"m completed, I would go with Patriots, I read many of posts in the archives that stated members having problems with oil in places there should not have been on Dart heads, and the ported Darts had alot of problems with the oil. :)

YankeeVert. 05-20-2007 03:57 PM

I just had a set of PP LS6 STAGE II heads installed along with a 218/224,.605/.581, 115 cam. No dyno numbers but I gained 6 mph in trap speed (113vs 119). Car runs strong from idle to 6600 rpm. Great throttle reponse also.

AKRA 05-20-2007 04:05 PM

I had so many problems with the Patriots 5.3 I wouldn't buy anything else from them. My vote is for the Darts.

Good luck,

Al

Thule 07-18-2007 04:32 AM

here are my patriots, had to wait a while for them, but they look like an qualaty product

https://i17.tinypic.com/4q3bqmr.jpg

jrfango8 07-25-2007 05:27 PM

i have the dart pro1 225's on my ls1, havent dyno tuned it yet but im satisfied, ive also heard edlebrock makes a mean set of heads for the ls1-6 motors.

The Black Mamba 08-03-2007 10:01 PM

Why not go with the Stage 3s? I noticed they were the same price as the Stage 2s over on ws6store.com.

DaveX 10-07-2007 09:33 AM

I'm happy with my dart 225's and I'm on the stock bottom end. I don't have any numbers yet for my new setup, but it is making great power in the midrange and pulls hard up top but I'm still shifting at 6200 for now. The main problem I'm having now is traction. :)

HEMIETR 10-18-2007 07:59 PM

Old thread. But anyway, as some said the Darts are not great out of the box. With a little work they are very good. On the other hand, by the time you spend the money to make the Darts perform, you could but a set of AFR, ETP or TFS heads.

1Bad00SS 11-21-2007 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by SS4Matt (Post 5904246)
well, i have an LS6 intake, the Patriots with the 2.055 ferrea intake valves, i have a cam with more duration and a bit more lift then the one you specified and all the supporting bolt ons, through an M6 on my friends mustang dyno i put down 430ish to the tire.

so i think your 450 to the tire is a bit out of reach with the patriots, unless you're using a dynojet/egobooster

i'm not sure how the Darts stack up against the patriots,


I've seen several times people making significantly less power on a dynojet compared to the mustang dyno. Dynojet is the real #, Mustang dynos vary dramatically to the owner's preference.

Red 01SS 11-21-2007 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Gunnar@Patriot (Post 5910685)
Our runner volume is 227 +/-. This is one of the smallest 243 ported runners available. Our stage II heads are built with only the best products available, Patriot Gold springs, ti retainers, machined Super 7 locks, Ferrea valves, etc. These heads will perform very well for you. Yes, there might be a short wait for them, but the wait is well worth it.

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Gunnar speaks the truth. I am running these and am more than pleased with the product and service :D

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