GTP Stage II Heads?
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GTP Stage II Heads? Looking at a set, any opinions?
The price seems very reasonable, compared to MTI's Stage II's, yet I know from personal experience that MTI's reputation/customer service/products are very, very good.
Is GTP as good, worse, about the same?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Peace.
The price seems very reasonable, compared to MTI's Stage II's, yet I know from personal experience that MTI's reputation/customer service/products are very, very good.
Is GTP as good, worse, about the same?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Peace.
Re: GTP Stage II Heads? For MTI to have such WONDERFUL customer service, it's rather odd how many people don't agree. I only have one experience with them, and it was so-so. From my own experience alone, I can't justify saying they have great customer service. Sure, they have a great reputation, but reputation isn't everything. Notice that nowhere have I said MTI sucks (Campbell/Whatley) or that you shouldn't go there. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't because they're a sponsor. Anyway, just keep that in mind and hope you get what you pay for if you change to the MTI heads.
I'm getting a set of GTP Stage II 5.3L heads very shortly. Got a deal I couldn't refuse!!! I've seen the heads in action, and they're making some unbelieveable power. Good luck!
Alan
2001 Z28 <--- slow and dirty
I'm getting a set of GTP Stage II 5.3L heads very shortly. Got a deal I couldn't refuse!!! I've seen the heads in action, and they're making some unbelieveable power. Good luck!
Alan
2001 Z28 <--- slow and dirty
Re: GTP Stage II Heads? Something to consider...
ARE Stage 1 heads have the same size valves as the GTP and the price is much better. Add dual springs, etc. and BAM! - still a better deal. That's the route I'm going. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
ARE Stage 1 heads have the same size valves as the GTP and the price is much better. Add dual springs, etc. and BAM! - still a better deal. That's the route I'm going. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Re: GTP Stage II Heads? It is all a matter of opinion.. I have spoken with MTI on several occasions and I think they are a wonderful bunch of guys. They did not have to help me with anything if they did not want too. I have spoken with most of the vendors on this board and all have been pleasant. It is bad to knock someone because your personality does not click with them.. Even though I did not purchase heads from any of the vendors secondary to being poor. I am still happy with my choice and I will be ironing out my tuning issues soon.. Give the sponsors a break.. They are trying to make a living like all of us..
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? [quote]Originally posted by Mark IXZD 150:
<strong>Something to consider...
ARE Stage 1 heads have the same size valves as the GTP and the price is much better. Add dual springs, etc. and BAM! - still a better deal. That's the route I'm going. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
They still won't flow as well as gtp's
AJ
<strong>Something to consider...
ARE Stage 1 heads have the same size valves as the GTP and the price is much better. Add dual springs, etc. and BAM! - still a better deal. That's the route I'm going. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
They still won't flow as well as gtp's
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? [quote]Originally posted by Mark IXZD 150:
<strong>Something to consider...
ARE Stage 1 heads have the same size valves as the GTP and the price is much better. Add dual springs, etc. and BAM! - still a better deal. That's the route I'm going. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
You get what you pay for. Valve size has nothing to do with this argument.
<strong>Something to consider...
ARE Stage 1 heads have the same size valves as the GTP and the price is much better. Add dual springs, etc. and BAM! - still a better deal. That's the route I'm going. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
You get what you pay for. Valve size has nothing to do with this argument.
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? All right everyone, listen. I'm not bashing MTI, no matter how much it may sound like I am. Like I said, even if I wanted to, if I wanted to comply w/ the rules, I couldn't. All in the world I'm doing is cautioning everyone not to judge by reputation alone, and not to ignore negative feedback. That, put simply, is all I'm saying. Don't read any more into it than really is there.
Now, back to the topic. jmX, so by using the old axiom, "you get what you pay for," you're implying that there is something you get with MTI/ARE that you don't get w/ GTP? If so, please explain.
Now, back to the topic. jmX, so by using the old axiom, "you get what you pay for," you're implying that there is something you get with MTI/ARE that you don't get w/ GTP? If so, please explain.
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? Terry,
Tell me where 285CFM @550 lift is bad on a ARE stage 1 head?
Where are you basing your statements on lift above 450? I am just curious.
Thanks,
Chris
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Tell me where 285CFM @550 lift is bad on a ARE stage 1 head?
Where are you basing your statements on lift above 450? I am just curious.
Thanks,
Chris
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? GTP heads are the way to go.......I have MTI heads on my car, and don't get me wrong they are very good and the car makes good power, but if I was starting all over I would go with the GTP's simply for the price difference.....
I have installed many GTP heads, and have seen nothing but good results out of them. The last 3 cars that we have done have produced 420+ rwhp, and the one with the 5.3 heads did over 430 rwhp! For 2g's you can't beat these heads.
Also the GTP heads now all come with the comp 918 springs, which are more reliable than the previous comp 941's.......
I have installed many GTP heads, and have seen nothing but good results out of them. The last 3 cars that we have done have produced 420+ rwhp, and the one with the 5.3 heads did over 430 rwhp! For 2g's you can't beat these heads.
Also the GTP heads now all come with the comp 918 springs, which are more reliable than the previous comp 941's.......
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? I agree with Matt. GTP heads are some of the best on the market. I and others have had great success with them.
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Re: GTP Stage II Heads? [quote]Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong>All right everyone, listen. I'm not bashing MTI, no matter how much it may sound like I am. Like I said, even if I wanted to, if I wanted to comply w/ the rules, I couldn't. All in the world I'm doing is cautioning everyone not to judge by reputation alone, and not to ignore negative feedback. That, put simply, is all I'm saying. Don't read any more into it than really is there.
Now, back to the topic. jmX, so by using the old axiom, "you get what you pay for," you're implying that there is something you get with MTI/ARE that you don't get w/ GTP? If so, please explain.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If I am not mistaken, the ARE/MTI S2 heads have larger valves than the GTP S2 heads. That will significantly increase price because of all the extra valve seat work. So usually you do get what you pay for within +/- a couple hundred dollars max.
- Mitch
<strong>All right everyone, listen. I'm not bashing MTI, no matter how much it may sound like I am. Like I said, even if I wanted to, if I wanted to comply w/ the rules, I couldn't. All in the world I'm doing is cautioning everyone not to judge by reputation alone, and not to ignore negative feedback. That, put simply, is all I'm saying. Don't read any more into it than really is there.
Now, back to the topic. jmX, so by using the old axiom, "you get what you pay for," you're implying that there is something you get with MTI/ARE that you don't get w/ GTP? If so, please explain.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If I am not mistaken, the ARE/MTI S2 heads have larger valves than the GTP S2 heads. That will significantly increase price because of all the extra valve seat work. So usually you do get what you pay for within +/- a couple hundred dollars max.
- Mitch
Re: GTP Stage II Heads? So, I suppose it all boils down to what you want out of the money you spend. Do you want more valve size for your dollar, or more power for your dollar? I haven't seen too many gains in going bigger than 2.02/1.57 on a stock-cubed motor, at least, not anything worthy of the extra price (IMO, of course).
Re: GTP Stage II Heads? Pool,
I think the key will be to make sure the heads your order are matched to the cam you'll be using regardless if it's GTP or MTI.
FWIW:
Since your in Houston, you could get MTI to do the install and get the 1 year 10,000 mile warranty. So if you were going to pay someone to do the install I think MTI would be the choice because of the warranty they offer. In other words if your paying someone to install, get a warranty with the install.
However, if your doing the install I'd get the GTP's since the MTI warranty wouldn't apply if your doing the install. I'd get dual springs on the GTP's too. GTP seems well proven to me.
I think the key will be to make sure the heads your order are matched to the cam you'll be using regardless if it's GTP or MTI.
FWIW:
Since your in Houston, you could get MTI to do the install and get the 1 year 10,000 mile warranty. So if you were going to pay someone to do the install I think MTI would be the choice because of the warranty they offer. In other words if your paying someone to install, get a warranty with the install.
However, if your doing the install I'd get the GTP's since the MTI warranty wouldn't apply if your doing the install. I'd get dual springs on the GTP's too. GTP seems well proven to me.
