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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
spray it. a 100 wet shot will hit harder than a 233/239 ever thought of off the line, and pull harder going down the track, as well. you have to spin the motor faster to get the most out of a cam, and also monitor your valvespring wear.

if you have the cash, DO BOTH - if not, spray it until you can get a cam. my buddy has a 99 z, bone stock except for a 3500 stall, k&n, and dual exhaust (still has factory manifolds) ... the car consistently picks up 13-15 mph with a 100 shot. you won't get that kind of hp from a 233/239, nor will you get the INSTANT torque. plus, if you want to go faster, simply put in a bigger jet.
On the 150 shot it really pulled hard. I was impressed
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Sure it will.

But it won't do it everyday, it won't do it anytime you want, it won't do it everytime you want, and it isn't exactly good for your engine when you do it.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Sure it will.

But it won't do it everyday, it won't do it anytime you want, it won't do it everytime you want, and it isn't exactly good for your engine when you do it.
Neither is gettin on it everday

I race maybe once or twice a month and the rest of the time I drive 10 miles total a day to work and back. I hardly ever get over 2000rpm when driving daily.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slow94GT
Both. =]
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Neither is gettin on it everday

I race maybe once or twice a month and the rest of the time I drive 10 miles total a day to work and back. I hardly ever get over 2000rpm when driving daily.
Thats no fun. I beat on my car everyday
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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me I did cam first (actually stall) now ive got heads and will be installed in Jan,and nitrous in the spring if i got enough for the rear end.Define what you wnat first then go from there.Everyone wants a fast car and nitrous is the cheapest and lots of hp bang for the buck,but for me i wanted power all the time and thats when i decided cam then i was gonna do nitrous,but said hell with it get the heads and if i run across a dodge viper just flip the switch then or save it for the track.for me nitrous is a great finishing touch when N/A is not enough.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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me I did cam first (actually stall) now ive got heads and will be installed in Jan,and nitrous in the spring if i got enough for the rear end.Define what you wnat first then go from there.Everyone wants a fast car and nitrous is the cheapest and lots of hp bang for the buck,but for me i wanted power all the time and thats when i decided cam then i was gonna do nitrous,but said hell with it get the heads and if i run across a dodge viper just flip the switch then or save it for the track.for me nitrous is a great finishing touch when N/A is not enough.
well said. my sentiments exactly.

Around here everyone knows everyone and races are planned, so its not like you are going to suprise someone.

I think I have come up with a solution for my indecisiveness.... that should take care of it
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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a cam is ALWAYS THERE and you only have to buy it once (on most occasions)
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PLucas
On the 150 shot it really pulled hard. I was impressed
it's an ls1, what do you expect?

...that thing definately rolls out for a stock automatic car. i was really hoping he would get some kind of n2o tune on it before swapping jets. that car needs a cam and some headers now.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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cam vs nitrous DD, cam always wins

HOWEVER..... you already have a small cam and are planning heads later. I would say get the nitrous right now, and do your bigger cam with the heads later on. Less time tuning and you get a big performance jump each time you add more mods.

Luckily for you, either way ends up in more power
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Jeckel
well said. my sentiments exactly.

Around here everyone knows everyone and races are planned, so its not like you are going to suprise someone.

I think I have come up with a solution for my indecisiveness.... that should take care of it
when it comes to modding cars youll always be indecisive,like me,I just bought heads for my cammed car and thought okay get it installed and add the n20 in the spring,well now that I have the heads Im thinking how about little bit larger cam.Yeah a larger cam is gonna be bettter with the heads,but thats just more $$$ in parts and labor that I can use on a nice N20 kit and mojney taken out of my rearend fund. who knows still cant decide to get the cam or not I guess ill just see how it feels after the heads go on and if it feels like its enough N/A ower then just wait till spring and install the N20 and rear
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hype
cam vs nitrous DD, cam always wins

HOWEVER..... you already have a small cam and are planning heads later. I would say get the nitrous right now, and do your bigger cam with the heads later on. Less time tuning and you get a big performance jump each time you add more mods.

Luckily for you, either way ends up in more power
??"cam always wins" ?? always wins what? a cam will not beat a sprayed car.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mullenh
??"cam always wins" ?? always wins what? a cam will not beat a sprayed car.
but a cam/spray car can beat a h/c car, and a n20 only car and alot of other ****.

the question is not, cam or nitrous. the question is, when do you get your n2o on after you get the cam in?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hype
cam vs nitrous DD, cam always wins

HOWEVER..... you already have a small cam and are planning heads later. I would say get the nitrous right now, and do your bigger cam with the heads later on. Less time tuning and you get a big performance jump each time you add more mods.

Luckily for you, either way ends up in more power
man, i hated my car when it was cam only, it was a bitch and it wasnt even that fast. (430rwhp)

a n2o car would be a stock car driving around and still be as fast as a cam only car
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Cam...turns more heads. If not in a rush, wait and get both
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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Well since everyone else here is rootin for the nitrous i'll throw in my 2 cents.

I just put the TSP 233/239 in my full bolt-on TA 2 weeks ago and got it tuned last week. I put down 406rwhp/374rwtq through the 9" w/ 4.11's. Some people are putting down around 415rwhp cam only with the stock 10 bolt. You do lose a little power down low but after driving it a couple days you get used to it, all you do is blip the throttle when you take off in 1st and take off like usual. I daily drive it, TONS of power up top, it is too much fun to drive now. Only issue is traction in 1st and 2nd . I can't wait to get a track time out of it. At the track I won't even notice the power loss down low cause I plan on launching it right at 6k.

My opinion is to go for the cam, but I am not a fan of nitrous. It's just a pain having to pay to fill the bottle to get the power, I like having it there all the time. I MAY throw on a small shot for track passes after I do heads & fast 90/90 but I wouldn't ever do a nitrous setup as a replacement to the engine work.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Jeckel
Neither is gettin on it everday

I race maybe once or twice a month and the rest of the time I drive 10 miles total a day to work and back. I hardly ever get over 2000rpm when driving daily.

i have the tsp 233/239 cam in mine....with full boltons i dynoed 422/399 through 3.73s and 12bolt rear....hello low 11s but hey its ur decision....and to the guy that said "nitrous+stalled auto" , i wipe with stalled bolton 100shot ls1s....
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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I like the spray option. It is not that I do not like some cam, just not the larger cam for a daily driver. A large cam can make daily driving (traffic) a chore. I have done the large cam and it is a lot of fun for a brief period of time. So if you plan on spraying anyway do it first then match a smaller cam up to it. In the long run you will enjoy it more.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
I can't believe you even had to ask.

A cam doesn't "go empty."
yeah, but your fuel mileage will with a cam. w/ nitrous, if you need to save gas, just cut the bottle off
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slowpoke96z28
yeah, but your fuel mileage will with a cam. w/ nitrous, if you need to save gas, just cut the bottle off
I disagree, with cam and the right tune, fuel mileage shouldn't drop at all. Mine dropped from 18mpg city/24mpg highway to 17mpg city and stayed at 24mpg highway. But, I also added 4.11 gears with my 9", plus the cam and longtubes, after tune I only lost 1mpg in the city and believe me, after all those upgrades I was definately smashing the gas every chance I got.
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