Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Ideas for a 87 octane LS-1...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:08 PM
  #1  
Sledgehammer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Default Ideas for a 87 octane LS-1...

Well since my piggy bank seems like it is going to be on life support for awhile...My dreams of building my turbo motor are going to be put on hold...

That being the case and the fact that the best I have for fuel in my area is crappy 90 octane that I have yet to see work any better that our 87 octane, I have decided to see just how much power I can make on the 87 octane...

What I have so far is a stock bore/stroke LS1 short block with Lunati forged 12cc dished pistons and a set of their 6.125 Pro Mod rods swinging on a stock crank.

This will be a carbed engine using a Edelbrock Victor Jr. intake and the MSD adjustible ign. module.

What I am looking for are ideas/comments on what heads, combustion chamber size, compression ratio, cam profile, etc. would work best.

The car weight will about 2700# and I will most likely hit it with a 150 or more hit of N2O at the track.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:47 PM
  #2  
rubber duck's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

Making power and 87 octane just don't mix. You wouldn't even be able to run the stock cr. I'd do the math to figure out where your cr would be with stock heads and the dished slugs, then go from there. I'd imagine you'd have to keep it at 9:1 at the most.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:41 PM
  #3  
hammertime's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 2
From: Smithton, IL
Default

Ok, completing your build for the planned addition of a turbo is one thing. But optimizing your heads around N/A operation for the short term is probably not going to get you much. Save your maney for the turbo, and live with the lower output while you build up the funds to mave forward.

Also, why remove fuel injection from an engine you are planning to turbo/supercharge? Tuning that carb for either one is going to be much tougher. Tuning spark around boost without knock sensors is also going to be somewhat of a struggle.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:33 PM
  #4  
ArcticZ28's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,125
Likes: 4
From: Alexandria, VA
Default

Well, technically, you want to run the lowest octane possible on your motor as lower octanes produce more power. However, you also have to fight with the fact that you need to lower the compression so much, that it's not usually a good trade off, especially not for a street motor. I'd stick with just dealing with the low output until you can get the turbos together. Always build for your future goal.
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:43 AM
  #5  
Quick-Silver's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default

Compression with 66cc combustion chamber, .045 thick gasket, and 12cc dish pistons on 346 cubes= 9.3:1 compression. All pending on how far the piston is in or out of the hole, gasket thickness your gonna run, and valve sizes.
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:49 AM
  #6  
Quick-Silver's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default

Itll run on 87 octane just fine, but with not much compression and 87 octane, you will not be able to run as much timing and power output will be down quite a bit. If you plan on sprayin nitrous I would highly recommend some high octane fuel.
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:50 AM
  #7  
V6 Bird's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,109
Likes: 0
From: Grand Prairie, TX
Default

Dont you think all those motors you said were in the shop would like to be done?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE