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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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I see these guys that have some mild suspension and some have none at all maybe subframes. They are running 11.30's cam only automatic cars trapping 116ish. The tone of the exhaust tells you somthing is up at WOT but at idle it sounds like a stock cam. What cams are these people using and why arent there more people using them? Is it the baby cam and some good porting on the heads? Can anyone give me some ideas as to what cams they are using. Whats the point of putting a big cam in your car when you can obviously put somthing alot smaller in and it will out perform. 1 car I know of has NO NITROUS and these auto guys are real secretive.

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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Those are cars with cams that have little overlap and higher stalls, like yours and higher.
As far as suspension, LCA, thicker rear sway, poly bushings and front sway removal is enough for those times.

I'm sure that their cars underwent a serious diet as well (weight reduction)
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Those are cars with cams that have little overlap and higher stalls, like yours and higher.
As far as suspension, LCA, thicker rear sway, poly bushings and front sway removal is enough for those times.

I'm sure that their cars underwent a serious diet as well (weight reduction)
what kinda cams. can you link me to them or name some off? Im a newbie to all this cam stuff
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Like CheaTR, Stealth II, TR224 114 etc.... Cams with 0* or less overlap.
To calculate overlap:
{(int DUR+exh DUR)/2) - 2*LSA= Overlap
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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02+ LS6 cam and the LPE GT2-3 make nice sleeper cams.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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If I ever get a second f-body it's gettin a CheaTR!!
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Like CheaTR, Stealth II, TR224 114 etc.... Cams with 0* or less overlap.
To calculate overlap:
{(int DUR+exh DUR)/2) - 2*LSA= Overlap
so a 232 232 with a 116 lsa has a stock like ide ? and stealthy? or a 232 234 117 lsa?
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Go with the CheaTR, it performed almost like my FM13 (.1 slower) and idles like stock, even with headers and no cats. My friends stock T/A with flowmasters sounds meaner than my camed T/A. His T/A is like 2 seconds slower.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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No stock like but it would be fairly stealthy, however with such high durations the cam powerband would be way high in a 346.
you would make better average power with smaller ones
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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I like lopy cams! You should stick w/ a lopy cam CJ!
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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T-rex v.2 or MS4.

No, but seriously I would put my vote for CheaTR - Stealth II.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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my buddy Sam (1Bad98LS1) has run 11.30 Stock internals with no heads/cam or nitrous. it can be done with less, or near nothing
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