"EXAUSTING" Conclusions!
02-14-2002, 11:27 PM
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"EXAUSTING" Conclusions! After 10+ exaust combinations I'm finally getting somewhere. <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
I've got Long Tubes, offroad 3" Y and just changed from the 4" Mufflex to SLP20TL. The Mufflex sounded Prostock and very deep and boomy. VERY loud. So I swapped in the REFINED SLP20TL today and Damn I'm happy! It's about perfect unless you want a track only car. It has a great burble to it from idle - 2K and I can't hear it much at 3K going down the freeway. I can think and talk to people next to me.. I love this exaust with an offroad pipe. Absolutely NO rasp! And the Flowmaster resonated so bad I couldn't turn my stereo up loud enough. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Also, it's actually pretty rumbly at idle when I open the door, but it stays outside the cab where it should.
It sounds awesome when you're on it too. You can hear both motor and exaust where as all you could hear was Flowmaster before. I can hear how strong the engine is running now.
And the best part of it, I can't tell ANY difference in performance! And I'm guessing it's 10lbs lighter. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> If you're looking for a high quality & stainless, well priced catback, with a classy (refined) sound (throaty), then this is your exaust. But I do think it sounds better with an offroad y-pipe, because it would be a little quiet for me otherwise.
Oh, and I connected the exaust at the end of the y-pipe and just before the axle with nice flanges so they can quickly/easily be removed for track use. Yeah baby.
Next on my list is Dual Electronic "McCord" Cutouts in the y-pipe. This is going to be one kickass street/strip exaust.
I've got Long Tubes, offroad 3" Y and just changed from the 4" Mufflex to SLP20TL. The Mufflex sounded Prostock and very deep and boomy. VERY loud. So I swapped in the REFINED SLP20TL today and Damn I'm happy! It's about perfect unless you want a track only car. It has a great burble to it from idle - 2K and I can't hear it much at 3K going down the freeway. I can think and talk to people next to me.. I love this exaust with an offroad pipe. Absolutely NO rasp! And the Flowmaster resonated so bad I couldn't turn my stereo up loud enough. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Also, it's actually pretty rumbly at idle when I open the door, but it stays outside the cab where it should.
It sounds awesome when you're on it too. You can hear both motor and exaust where as all you could hear was Flowmaster before. I can hear how strong the engine is running now.
And the best part of it, I can't tell ANY difference in performance! And I'm guessing it's 10lbs lighter. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> If you're looking for a high quality & stainless, well priced catback, with a classy (refined) sound (throaty), then this is your exaust. But I do think it sounds better with an offroad y-pipe, because it would be a little quiet for me otherwise.
Oh, and I connected the exaust at the end of the y-pipe and just before the axle with nice flanges so they can quickly/easily be removed for track use. Yeah baby.
Next on my list is Dual Electronic "McCord" Cutouts in the y-pipe. This is going to be one kickass street/strip exaust.
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! Nice job Scott! The SLP 2OTL is one of the best sounding catbacks out there. My friend has it on his '94Z w/ hooker longtubes and ORP. I have yet to hear it on a LS1, but I can imagine it would sound real nice.
Only thing I don't like it the 2 tips only on the left. This would look OK on a Camaro, but it would look kind of out of place on a TA.
Let us know when you take it to the track. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Only thing I don't like it the 2 tips only on the left. This would look OK on a Camaro, but it would look kind of out of place on a TA.
Let us know when you take it to the track. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! vmoore, it's neither. The one Scott is talking about has 2 slash-cut tips on the left - no right-side tailpipe.
Good choice Scott.. but I'll keep my Hooker. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Good choice Scott.. but I'll keep my Hooker. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! [quote]Originally posted by Blistering Z:
<strong>Good choice Scott.. but I'll keep my Hooker. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
The Hooker was my 2nd choice, but how can you argue my choice of catback, an excellent stainless one, for $150 with a cutout installed. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> And it's factory on the 96/97 SS's. And VERY few LS1's have it. It's a secret so don't tell anybody about it. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I Can't wait till the track opens in late April.
<img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
Maybe a road trip will take care of that though, now that I can drive on the freeway again!
<strong>Good choice Scott.. but I'll keep my Hooker. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
The Hooker was my 2nd choice, but how can you argue my choice of catback, an excellent stainless one, for $150 with a cutout installed. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> And it's factory on the 96/97 SS's. And VERY few LS1's have it. It's a secret so don't tell anybody about it. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I Can't wait till the track opens in late April.
<img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
Maybe a road trip will take care of that though, now that I can drive on the freeway again!
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! [quote]Originally posted by Jason99T/A:
<strong>Nice job Scott! The SLP 2OTL is one of the best sounding catbacks out there. My friend has it on his '94Z w/ hooker longtubes and ORP. I have yet to hear it on a LS1, but I can imagine it would sound real nice.
Only thing I don't like it the 2 tips only on the left. This would look OK on a Camaro, but it would look kind of out of place on a TA.
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I have a single 3" in/out flowmaster welded on my stock exhaust with one 3" chrome slash tip on my 2000 formula, and a LH side only exhaust looks bitchin! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> I'm debating a cat-back system in the future (SLP 2OTL and hooker are leading the list), but saving for a new motor for the Nova. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Derek
<strong>Nice job Scott! The SLP 2OTL is one of the best sounding catbacks out there. My friend has it on his '94Z w/ hooker longtubes and ORP. I have yet to hear it on a LS1, but I can imagine it would sound real nice.
Only thing I don't like it the 2 tips only on the left. This would look OK on a Camaro, but it would look kind of out of place on a TA.
<img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I have a single 3" in/out flowmaster welded on my stock exhaust with one 3" chrome slash tip on my 2000 formula, and a LH side only exhaust looks bitchin! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> I'm debating a cat-back system in the future (SLP 2OTL and hooker are leading the list), but saving for a new motor for the Nova. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
Derek
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02-15-2002, 08:58 AM
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! The SLP dual-dual has absolutely no rasp either, nor drone. Perfect with offroad setups in my opinion. The 2OTL only looks decent on Camaros in my opinion. One tip on a Pontiac, which has two bumper holes, looks goofy.
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02-15-2002, 09:14 AM
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! [quote]Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>The 2OTL only looks decent on Camaros in my opinion. One tip on a Pontiac, which has two bumper holes, looks goofy.
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hmmm... I disagree. I’ve only seen one pic of it on a T/A, but it looked great! I’ve got a 2OTL system on order that I’ll be installing next week to replace my FM catback (I’m also trying to get rid of ORP rasp).
Formulas and T/As bumper cutouts aren’t really shaped like tail pipes so it doesn’t look bad at all, IMO. But I like the fact that most don’t put it on T/As and Formulas as it’ll keep mine special <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Dual/dual is too quiet for me, even with ORP, so 2OTL was a must! Plus, how can you beat $399 for full stainless steel and arguably the best flowing muffler catback?
Truth be told, I don’t really like twin opposite side tips on any of these cars too much, because the tips never line up strait and it looks crooked. It took me forever to get the tips on my FM catback to line up right. 2OTL makes that task real easy. To each his own though. If I ever find someone around me to post pics for me I’ll post them once I put the system on.
<strong>The 2OTL only looks decent on Camaros in my opinion. One tip on a Pontiac, which has two bumper holes, looks goofy.
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hmmm... I disagree. I’ve only seen one pic of it on a T/A, but it looked great! I’ve got a 2OTL system on order that I’ll be installing next week to replace my FM catback (I’m also trying to get rid of ORP rasp).
Formulas and T/As bumper cutouts aren’t really shaped like tail pipes so it doesn’t look bad at all, IMO. But I like the fact that most don’t put it on T/As and Formulas as it’ll keep mine special <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Dual/dual is too quiet for me, even with ORP, so 2OTL was a must! Plus, how can you beat $399 for full stainless steel and arguably the best flowing muffler catback?
Truth be told, I don’t really like twin opposite side tips on any of these cars too much, because the tips never line up strait and it looks crooked. It took me forever to get the tips on my FM catback to line up right. 2OTL makes that task real easy. To each his own though. If I ever find someone around me to post pics for me I’ll post them once I put the system on.
02-15-2002, 09:15 AM
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! JANTZER98SS... I couldn't agree with everything you said more. I went from stock to Hookers to the Loudmouth and finally the 2OTL. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Joe.
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! [quote]Originally posted by Jantzer98SS:
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The Hooker was my 2nd choice, but how can you argue my choice of catback, an excellent stainless one, for $150 with a cutout installed. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> And it's factory on the 96/97 SS's. And VERY few LS1's have it. It's a secret so don't tell anybody about it. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I Can't wait till the track opens in late April.
<img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
Maybe a road trip will take care of that though, now that I can drive on the freeway again!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nice Scott, everyone knows about it now !
<img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Quit testing exhaust and get on your Heads setup and get some cams tested with those StageII's. Remember you have to have everything perfected for me by the end of the year <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
- Mitch R.
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The Hooker was my 2nd choice, but how can you argue my choice of catback, an excellent stainless one, for $150 with a cutout installed. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> And it's factory on the 96/97 SS's. And VERY few LS1's have it. It's a secret so don't tell anybody about it. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I Can't wait till the track opens in late April.
<img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
Maybe a road trip will take care of that though, now that I can drive on the freeway again!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nice Scott, everyone knows about it now !
<img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Quit testing exhaust and get on your Heads setup and get some cams tested with those StageII's. Remember you have to have everything perfected for me by the end of the year <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
- Mitch R.
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! I just have to say how much more I enjoy driving the car now. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> It just quietly gets it done now for me. What's funny about it is that I have to go back and make a custom sheet metal plate to block off the master cylinder hole that I left after switching to the A4. Before I couldn't hear it. Now most of the interior noise is coming from the engine compartment through that hole. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
[quote]Originally posted by MitchR:
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Nice Scott, everyone knows about it now !
<img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Quit testing exhaust and get on your Heads setup and get some cams tested with those StageII's. Remember you have to have everything perfected for me by the end of the year <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
- Mitch R.</strong><hr></blockquote>
HaHa... You better believe I will. 11's used to be my goal, and I've never run it yet, but I'm going straight for 10's.....and I won't quit till I get there. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Even if I have to drive to HRP ("H"ardly "R"equires "P"ower) to get it done. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
New Stage II Heads (not revealing secrets yet) and an MMS cam to come. Haven't determined the specs exactly, but the MMS229 is looking VERY good.
[quote]Originally posted by MitchR:
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Nice Scott, everyone knows about it now !
<img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Quit testing exhaust and get on your Heads setup and get some cams tested with those StageII's. Remember you have to have everything perfected for me by the end of the year <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
- Mitch R.</strong><hr></blockquote>
HaHa... You better believe I will. 11's used to be my goal, and I've never run it yet, but I'm going straight for 10's.....and I won't quit till I get there. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Even if I have to drive to HRP ("H"ardly "R"equires "P"ower) to get it done. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
New Stage II Heads (not revealing secrets yet) and an MMS cam to come. Haven't determined the specs exactly, but the MMS229 is looking VERY good.
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Re: "EXAUSTING" Conclusions! [quote]Originally posted by Jantzer98SS:
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HaHa... You better believe I will. 11's used to be my goal, and I've never run it yet, but I'm going straight for 10's.....and I won't quit till I get there. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Even if I have to drive to HRP ("H"ardly "R"equires "P"ower) to get it done. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
New Stage II Heads (not revealing secrets yet) and an MMS cam to come. Haven't determined the specs exactly, but the MMS229 is looking VERY good.</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL ! Scott, my goal is only low 11's for now <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I like the HRP saying ... very nice. With the tracks up here in Wester NY I'll probably never get my goal.
I think with the MMS229 cam and your Stage IIR heads or the II's will get you high 10's no prob. At that point it will be all about tuning, traction, and a damn good convereter.
I personally would love to get my goal with a little smaller cam - like the Hammer or something else in the 222/222 56x range.
I'm glad you got that exhaust to your satisfaction. I don't like a really loud exhaust either. I went out and got the Corsa on a GP but have not installed it yet - wiating for the weather to warm up.
Best Regards,
Mitch R.
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HaHa... You better believe I will. 11's used to be my goal, and I've never run it yet, but I'm going straight for 10's.....and I won't quit till I get there. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Even if I have to drive to HRP ("H"ardly "R"equires "P"ower) to get it done. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
New Stage II Heads (not revealing secrets yet) and an MMS cam to come. Haven't determined the specs exactly, but the MMS229 is looking VERY good.</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL ! Scott, my goal is only low 11's for now <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I like the HRP saying ... very nice. With the tracks up here in Wester NY I'll probably never get my goal.
I think with the MMS229 cam and your Stage IIR heads or the II's will get you high 10's no prob. At that point it will be all about tuning, traction, and a damn good convereter.
I personally would love to get my goal with a little smaller cam - like the Hammer or something else in the 222/222 56x range.
I'm glad you got that exhaust to your satisfaction. I don't like a really loud exhaust either. I went out and got the Corsa on a GP but have not installed it yet - wiating for the weather to warm up.
Best Regards,
Mitch R.