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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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I want to make a max 450hp to the wheels with a cam on my 00 C5. With a budget in mind I want to make the right decisions. Do I save up and get a double roller or is the LS2 OE timing chain significient?

Also should I consider a LS6 intake even though I am sticking with my LS1 heads? Would it help in any way?

Will springs, retainers, or any other head work be needed while using a mild cam?

In the end I want the best bang for the buck. ECS puts out a great cam and I am considering that route but I don't want this to turn into a $3K project. What list would you generate with a cam build?
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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You're going to have to go to a max effort cam to get 450 at the wheels cam only. That means you'll need at least the LS6 intake if not something like a FAST 90. You'll need a good dual spring package rated appropriately for the lift of the cam you choose. You'll also need a good computer tune. This assumes you have all other bolt-ons available.

You might expand a bit on what your plans for the car are going to be. That will make it easier for people to help.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Yeah, cam only on LS1 heads....450rwhp is a bit unrealistic. Good luck.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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In order to get 450rwhp you'll need a cam along the lines of an MS4, at least an Ls6 intake but most likely a FAST 90/90 setup, and some really nice flowing heads.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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^^werd. Your not gonna get 450 cam only. Your gonna need a nice H/C/I package & good tune. And the cam is gonna have to be pretty big.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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he said max 450. i assume that means no more than 450. this thread is very vague.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Nope you guys. I to thought the numbers were unrealiatic. Someone started a post where ECS added a mild cam (they won't release numbers) comp 921 springs, retainers and a pulley to get 430 to the wheels on a LS1. Keep in mind this is also with a full exhaust and intake. No heads, or intake manifold. I'll post the link. There are several out there. I just wanted to get some real ideas as to what is needed. My plan is to run the cam, pulley, and move over to a LS6 oil pump, LS2 timing chain, etc....

O.K. I just actually searched alittle and it was on a 04 so that means he was already updated. so I guess a Intake would be needed. I still have no plans of runnin a LS6/Fast intake so maybe I will just shoot for 425rwhp and be happy.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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I still have no plans of runnin a LS6/Fast intake so maybe I will just shoot for 425rwhp and be happy.
That's still going to be hard to do with a mild cam. The numbers ECS posted are not the norm, otherwise there would be no reason to post those results.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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I agree but they claim to have 3 cars getting similar results. It just looks like we are getting better cam selections out there. Hell even if I get 414+ and this pig can run some low/mid 11's with a stall and 3.73's I would be a happy camper. Final goal when it is all said, is to have the stall, rear, cam, Dr's, and a 11 second car. I think that is reasonable. Honostly I don't care about dyno numbers, I just use them as a reference.
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You can easily get into the 11's with a mild cam if you really focus on your suspension setup. That's the golden ticket right there, it's in your launch and 60 ft. Properly built cars easily run 11's with "baby" cams.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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good luck getting a cam to hit 400 with the ls1 intake. Forget about closing in on 450.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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On a LS6 engine I only managed 423 rwhp with a 232 234 cam and the bolt ons you are looking at. For you I would expect closer to 400 without the intake or ls6 heads depending on the cam size.
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