Update On Nine Ball's Engine...! Where is it???
 

Or did i miss it???

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It's not completed just yet, but rumor has it that it won't be much longer. <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />

Re: Update On Nine Ball's Engine...! Where is it???
 

Its not built yet. Parts are still ariving. Here is the scoop:

MTI 432ci resleeved aluminum block
MTI Stage 3 ported/polished LS6 heads
MTI "S1" hydraulic camshaft (244/244 .610/.610 112)
Childs & Albert 4.00" forged stroker crank
Wiseco custom 4.15" bore forged pistons
Custom billet rods
Jessel Street/Strip rocker arms
MTI modified oil pump
Stock LS6 intake
Bigger fuel injectors
LS1-EDIT tuning

Scheduled to begin machining/porting week of March 16th. Waiting on crank to arrive also.

Should be fun for this year, probably go with solid roller cam setup next year <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Tony
Shooting for 10.50s NA with full weight and M6

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OMG! that is sick tony! when did this new crank come out? is it less pricey than the lunatti unit? also is that an aluminum 6.0 block? that is a lot of bore!

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Childs & Albert crank is about $300 more expensive than Lunati - but better quality <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Had more to do with delivery time issues from Lunati.

Yes, this is the largest sleeved motor MTI has built, but they now have some custom made sleeves which are thicker. I'm not the first guinnea-pig however, another customer is having an all-bore 392ci (4.150" bore, stock 3.62" stroke) built the week before my motor. Should be interesting.

Tony

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Tony,
I am VERY happy to see you post your cam specs.
I think that is very straight up of you.
Keeping cam specs secret in a public forum is utter bullshit in my opinion. This forum is for people to learn what is working and what isnt. Compare combos and results.
Thanks again,
Chris

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Chris, the cam specs are no secret. This is the exact same cam that Sanders ("S1") and PaiN are running in their 422ci motors.

I just told Jayson and Jeff at MTI to "build a motor like you would like to build it" and gave them no real input on anything. They also know this car is not my daily-driver anymore, so they could have more fun with it. It will still be a pump gas motor though, I can't afford running race gas all the time <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">

Tony

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WOW!!!Sounds like a great setup Tony.Good luck with the build up.Chris I totally agree with u about secret cam specs.

My 224-580 113 Cam is docile to the poiint it doesnt really lope all the much.Comparing it to my TR Cam with the same duration is crazy.That really loped on a 112.

JS

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JS ripping on TR now I see? You're such a sell out. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

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Terry, must you start shit with JS in every single thread he replies in? I swear you must have a crush on him. Grow up!

Tony <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />

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Thanks for the news!

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Ripping TR,no Terry I said it blipped worse thats all.Power imo is alittle better with my Cartek cam if u wanna know but I also added new heads too.

TR is a GREAT SHOP
Geoff,Paul and Angie ROCK!!!
Thanx for sticking up for me Tony.

JS

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Cool! Another S1 cam car! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Yep, those specs are no secret. I released them not long after it was installed in my car last summer.

Now I'm dreaming of the S2! <img src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" border="0" alt="[devil]" />

[ March 11, 2002: Message edited by: Colonel ]</p>

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It's too bad your using someone else's cam. Otherwise we could have your new cam:
T2 Judgement Day <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

This sucks <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0"> but I have to agree with Terry: <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">
Why is JS pimping the Cartek cam and talking about the TR cam in this post about Tony's big cube motor? <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

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Ragtop, I already had the "T2" cam in my 382ci motor. (232/232 .574/.574 112)

I was thinking "T3" but it might be too scary...

Tony

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Yes, this is the largest sleeved motor MTI has built
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I believe that MTI built a 449 CID motor some time before. Do you know what bore & stroke ratios they used ?

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The MTI 449ci motor had a 4.25" custom crank and the standard 4.10" bore. It made about the same power as a 422ci setup, probably due to the 3 year old LS1 heads the owner just had freshened up for the new motor. With LS6 heads and a better intake, it should make much better power or at least more torque.

Tony

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Tony, that looks like it is going to be a great setup. You ain't gonna have a sleeper, though <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> I also figured that you were going to go the route of a big-cubed motor even before you said anything about it. Too many relative newbies like me jumping to the 422s . . .

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That car should hit 10.50's easily, thats if the tranny survives.... <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />

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Tony the only way that car wont run 10.50 is if track is closed! Good luck. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">