g5 cam specs
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Re: g5 cam specs I wish someone would put that thing on a cam doctor for once... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I dunno why they are holding on to the details, if I knew them, maybe I would consider buying it, but the price is really high for a cam we know nothing about... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I dunno why they are holding on to the details, if I knew them, maybe I would consider buying it, but the price is really high for a cam we know nothing about... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: g5 cam specs </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>I wish someone would put that thing on a cam doctor for once... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I dunno why they are holding on to the details, if I knew them, maybe I would consider buying it, but the price is really high for a cam we know nothing about... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree; I've thought about replacing my cam with one but without the specs, how do I know how it will perform in relation to the one I already have.
<strong>I wish someone would put that thing on a cam doctor for once... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I dunno why they are holding on to the details, if I knew them, maybe I would consider buying it, but the price is really high for a cam we know nothing about... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree; I've thought about replacing my cam with one but without the specs, how do I know how it will perform in relation to the one I already have.
Re: g5 cam specs I'm sure its nothing special, the cam doesn't make any more power than say my MMS 229v2.1 cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just take the cam to a machine shop before you install and for $30 they will tell you the specs.
Just take the cam to a machine shop before you install and for $30 they will tell you the specs.
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Re: g5 cam specs </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>I'm sure its nothing special, the cam doesn't make any more power than say my MMS 229v2.1 cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just take the cam to a machine shop before you install and for $30 they will tell you the specs.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">/sarcasm on
Come on Terry nothing can make more power than the all mighty <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> MMS 229v2.1
/sarcasm off
<strong>I'm sure its nothing special, the cam doesn't make any more power than say my MMS 229v2.1 cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just take the cam to a machine shop before you install and for $30 they will tell you the specs.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">/sarcasm on
Come on Terry nothing can make more power than the all mighty <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> MMS 229v2.1
/sarcasm off
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Re: g5 cam specs I have no use for a cam that I can’t get the specs on. I doubt that every shop would drop everything and start copying the G5 the minute the specs were released. There are many cams that work great, and the G5 is by no means a miracle cam, IMO. I refuse to buy any part that I can’t get answers to my questions about. The most important question that I would have when buying a cam is the specs. No specs, no sale. I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way.
I agree that peak numbers aren’t nearly as important to those of us building street cars as the whole curve is. I don’t care if this cam makes 15 more HP at 6800rpm if that means giving up 20/30hp at 4000rpm.
I’ll stick with my little B1 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
I agree that peak numbers aren’t nearly as important to those of us building street cars as the whole curve is. I don’t care if this cam makes 15 more HP at 6800rpm if that means giving up 20/30hp at 4000rpm.
I’ll stick with my little B1 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: g5 cam specs </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
MMS's 229vWhatever cam for instance, gives up loads of torque <4000 for the big numbers up top. I suspect that the G5 cam will turn out to do the same.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually it doesn't give up all that much down low, but the key point here is you need to match the cam to your combination. If you run a 3500 rpm stall for example, you have lost all power below 3500. Pick a cam that makes great power from 3300rpm+. If you run a 4400rpm stall converter, you have already lost all your power below 4400rpm.
The same logic applies to M6 guys who have 4.10s.
MMS's 229vWhatever cam for instance, gives up loads of torque <4000 for the big numbers up top. I suspect that the G5 cam will turn out to do the same.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually it doesn't give up all that much down low, but the key point here is you need to match the cam to your combination. If you run a 3500 rpm stall for example, you have lost all power below 3500. Pick a cam that makes great power from 3300rpm+. If you run a 4400rpm stall converter, you have already lost all your power below 4400rpm.
The same logic applies to M6 guys who have 4.10s.
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Re: g5 cam specs Well I think the g5 cam hype is over now. You people are finally starting to realize that the g5 is nothing that special. They are just looking for a way to make extra $$$$$ that is all that it is about. I have a nice head/cam set up that made over 400 hp through an unlock 4400 converter. So I think the g5 is not everything it is cracked up to be unless it is made out of gold. Just my opinion <img border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />
Re: g5 cam specs </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Actually it doesn't give up all that much down low, but the key point here is you need to match the cam to your combination. If you run a 3500 rpm stall for example, you have lost all power below 3500. Pick a cam that makes great power from 3300rpm+. If you run a 4400rpm stall converter, you have already lost all your power below 4400rpm.
The same logic applies to M6 guys who have 4.10s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed about the A4 or 3 folks. If you have a 4400 stall, then < 4000 isnt that important to you power-wise. BUT, the cam may be important idle or emmisions wise. I dont see the 4400 stall crowd as being to worried about those though .
But for the M6 guys, I think 1500-4000 torque will always be important to drivability. I think you can put 4.10s in a race car, but it will still drive like a dog on the street. And if you do road racing, 3000-4000 rpm may be moderately important. I assume you have an M6 if you are road racing.
I was looking at my dynos and I realized that at 3000 rpm I picked up 45-50 lb feet from the heads, Y-pipe, and programming. I think thats gonna be fun with the new 4.10s. Glad I went with the measly little 222 hammercam...
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<strong>Actually it doesn't give up all that much down low, but the key point here is you need to match the cam to your combination. If you run a 3500 rpm stall for example, you have lost all power below 3500. Pick a cam that makes great power from 3300rpm+. If you run a 4400rpm stall converter, you have already lost all your power below 4400rpm.
The same logic applies to M6 guys who have 4.10s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed about the A4 or 3 folks. If you have a 4400 stall, then < 4000 isnt that important to you power-wise. BUT, the cam may be important idle or emmisions wise. I dont see the 4400 stall crowd as being to worried about those though .
But for the M6 guys, I think 1500-4000 torque will always be important to drivability. I think you can put 4.10s in a race car, but it will still drive like a dog on the street. And if you do road racing, 3000-4000 rpm may be moderately important. I assume you have an M6 if you are road racing.
I was looking at my dynos and I realized that at 3000 rpm I picked up 45-50 lb feet from the heads, Y-pipe, and programming. I think thats gonna be fun with the new 4.10s. Glad I went with the measly little 222 hammercam...
\chris
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Re: g5 cam specs I agree with the idea of having low end torque for us M6 guys.. It takes time to downshift and if you are not quick the other car is gone.. Where I live they do not like giving you a second chance.. Even though you could have been gaining the whole time..
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Re: g5 cam specs I had a h/c job done by L.G. Motorsports and the performance of the car is good. I ran an 11.89 @ 114.73 on 17 Nitto's with a 3200 vig. The car was full of gas and no weight reduction except spare tire and jack. The problem I am having is an idle problem coming to redlights, stop signs, and staging lanes. I adjusted the idle screw up just a tad to see if this would help. I not exactly into all the cam specs and such, but the car performs well. I far as ET on the A4, it has more potential with slicks, quarter tank of gas or less, skinnies, MAF ends, port and polished throttle body, cutout, etc. How much more, I don't know, but there is some more there. Car has never been fine tune or ATAP. The fastest MPH on the car was 115.60. With the skinnies and cut-out opened, it may go 117-118. Just to give some untechnical light on the subject. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Re: g5 cam specs We went through the "what are the secret specs" drama before. Three years ago with MTI.
I don't have a problem with companies not releasing specs as long as they do the following:
-State whether the cam will pass emissions
-State whether tuning is recomended
-Tell you what springs you should use.
-Tell you what pushrods to use.
I suspect that the G5 cam is somewhere around a 225 thru 228 cam.
When you buy the G5, you are also buying a part of LG Motorports. That is their philosophy.
I dislike the comment above about copying the cam. It's tacky IMO.
I don't have a problem with companies not releasing specs as long as they do the following:
-State whether the cam will pass emissions
-State whether tuning is recomended
-Tell you what springs you should use.
-Tell you what pushrods to use.
I suspect that the G5 cam is somewhere around a 225 thru 228 cam.
When you buy the G5, you are also buying a part of LG Motorports. That is their philosophy.
I dislike the comment above about copying the cam. It's tacky IMO.
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Re: g5 cam specs I have mixed feelings about LG not reporting the cam specs. On one hand, if they are really onto a secret that they have found from a lot of R&D, then I completely support it. He does, after all, need to make money from his business and R&D. On the other hand, I don't know that I could ever put anything in my car for which I did not know the specs, and not releasing the specs does not let me know if the cam is really any different from some of the other big cams out there.
Regardless, the ultimate jury will be a track record of the dynos/track times of this cam versus several of the other cams out there in many cars. Since people are stepping up to buy this cam, we will be finding out.
Regardless, the ultimate jury will be a track record of the dynos/track times of this cam versus several of the other cams out there in many cars. Since people are stepping up to buy this cam, we will be finding out.
Re: g5 cam specs </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>I wish someone would put that thing on a cam doctor for once... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I dunno why they are holding on to the details, if I knew them, maybe I would consider buying it, but the price is really high for a cam we know nothing about... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lou has posted before his reasons for not giving away the cam specs. They did the R&D on this cam and found out how well it works. If they give it out then everyone and their dog will be copying it under a different name. I can understand both sides of the coin.
As for buying it, the whole G5 package has put up like 420/430 hp and over 400 tq at the wheels. Supposed to idle very well, what more do you want to know than that? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>I wish someone would put that thing on a cam doctor for once... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I dunno why they are holding on to the details, if I knew them, maybe I would consider buying it, but the price is really high for a cam we know nothing about... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lou has posted before his reasons for not giving away the cam specs. They did the R&D on this cam and found out how well it works. If they give it out then everyone and their dog will be copying it under a different name. I can understand both sides of the coin.
As for buying it, the whole G5 package has put up like 420/430 hp and over 400 tq at the wheels. Supposed to idle very well, what more do you want to know than that? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: g5 cam specs I want to know if I can get a cam thats similar and will make the same power for about 125 bucks less.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />