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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Legend
If you go FI ensure that funds, funds and funds are readily available. It will be one thing after the other.
Coming from a guy with a FI, good advise from experience.
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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personally i think it will take atleast $10-11000 to go FI,and the $3000 that is stated around here for H/C is not with all the hidden costs gaskets ,valve covers(for 98 heads), pump, injectors , upgrade intake, throttle body(if you go 90/90set up) tune ,rear ,tranny (if a4) time chain, oil pump, stall (to match cam if A4)

if its cheap and reliable it aint fast,if its fast and cheap it aint reliable,and if its fast and reliable it aint cheap
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by john563
personally i think it will take atleast $10-11000 to go FI,and the $3000 that is stated around here for H/C is not with all the hidden costs gaskets ,valve covers(for 98 heads), pump, injectors , upgrade intake, throttle body(if you go 90/90set up) tune ,rear ,tranny (if a4) time chain, oil pump, stall (to match cam if A4)

if its cheap and reliable it aint fast,if its fast and cheap it aint reliable,and if its fast and reliable it aint cheap
So very true!!!!!
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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i say go for the h/c.....it may be more than 3k for everything( if he uses the nice stuff) but it definitly wont be 10k.
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk108
i say go for the h/c.....it may be more than 3k for everything( if he uses the nice stuff) but it definitly wont be 10k.
I say heads and cam with the 6000 budget,it wont go over it and with the FI 6000 is not enough. you would be surprised how much things will cost once you start doing them and purchasing parts.Im cammed and heads are going in right now and I swapt my ls6 intake for a ported 90/90 set up and Ive got a nitrous kit in my room waiting install in the spring,but ill have to upgrade rear and DRIVESHAFT.I know you dont like the idea of constantly filling the bottle,and neither did I thats why i did not go cam and spray I added the heads and intake and thats apretty fast car(heads and cam),if I run into those few that are faster then use the spray ,but i dont think i will neeed it for everycar,cuz like stated heads and cam is pretty quick.Youll see alot of people here that will say I know so and so and they are boosted and it only cost this much,but its not first hand experience.As for the cheap quotes on heads and cam packages yes they seem to fit in a nice budget,but start adding in the other cost gaskets fuel lifters chain install and tuning fees the budget goes up and this is coming from a guy that has bought the parts including built tranny.Im not trying to sway you from FI I would love to but it costs money.So go out price every component you will need for heads cam first and see how much extra you got left then go to a reputable shop and talk to them about install supplies tune and see what it cost,then and then if you think you can go FI on $6000 do it,but honestly for heads and cam thats a real nice budget,but not a nice budget for FI in my opinion ,but thats just my opinion take for what its worth
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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He said he budgeted for the 12-bolt, but I wonder how much that really was...I will have put nearly $3000 in mine to get it in my car with all the misc. ****. Clutch? Better have at LEAST a grand unless you want to chance a cheaper setup (which you can, but I personally won't). Just doing some casual reading in the FI section has been enough to steer me away from it...there are guys who will honestly tell you how much they spent, and it is WAY more than 6k, sometimes even to just get started. I don't have the kinda cash flow that would require on top of eventually needing a new shortblock...maybe this guy does. Who knows. I think people get a set money figure in their minds that is a bit low. If I were to get into F/I, I'd probably want about 10 grand set aside to do it properly.
Thats what I'm thinking. Living up here in the clouds, FI is a very tempting way to get most the power back that we lose from the elevation. However, I can't convince the logic part of my brain to do it, because I know it will go way over 6k.

I'd say take rides in both styles and decide If you need the extra power from FI, or if you can't stand cam lope, etc... Personally, I want FI but I know that if I spent 6k on a setup, it would be broken down at my house waiting for money for replacement parts.

Either way, you are getting a sweet power increase!
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by john563
personally i think it will take atleast $10-11000 to go FI,and the $3000 that is stated around here for H/C is not with all the hidden costs gaskets ,valve covers(for 98 heads), pump, injectors , upgrade intake, throttle body(if you go 90/90set up) tune ,rear ,tranny (if a4) time chain, oil pump, stall (to match cam if A4)

if its cheap and reliable it aint fast,if its fast and cheap it aint reliable,and if its fast and reliable it aint cheap
I agree. My brother went with a P1sc setup on his camaro, They quoted him at 8k but in the end after **** started breaking and all the bracing the car needed, plus the tuning to get the car totally right it cost him 12k.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
He said he budgeted for the 12-bolt, but I wonder how much that really was...I will have put nearly $3000 in mine to get it in my car with all the misc. ****. Clutch? Better have at LEAST a grand unless you want to chance a cheaper setup (which you can, but I personally won't). Just doing some casual reading in the FI section has been enough to steer me away from it...there are guys who will honestly tell you how much they spent, and it is WAY more than 6k, sometimes even to just get started. I don't have the kinda cash flow that would require on top of eventually needing a new shortblock...maybe this guy does. Who knows. I think people get a set money figure in their minds that is a bit low. If I were to get into F/I, I'd probably want about 10 grand set aside to do it properly.

Oh no I agree 100%, I just think he meant he has 6K on top of the clutch and 12-bolt, could be wrong though and yea Id say at least 10K for a reliable intro FI setup. Before I had my cam installed I was set on a ds1c or sts turbo and once I did a good amount of reading in the FI section and seeing how much stuff needs to be upgraded/replaced I realized that I didnt want to dump 10K+ into an FI setup. 12-bolt = $2500+, good clutch = $800-$1000, ds1c kit = $6000, install, tune, tires, fuel system (if not included in ds1c kit), new short block if the stock one lets go, new tranny, etc...
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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When I said I factored out a rear end and a clutch I meant that I already have money for them. 3k for a rear end and 1k for a clutch.
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