Help! Guys with MS3....
Help! Guys with MS3.... I didn't get a cam card when I purchased my cam, and now I need the full specs so I can calculate my DCR. 
I need the degree for ABDC to calculate, but I'll take the full specs if you got them. This is for the 237/242 603/609 113LSA. TIA!
I need the degree for ABDC to calculate, but I'll take the full specs if you got them. This is for the 237/242 603/609 113LSA. TIA!
So is that really a 236 intake lobe? Since Comp's lobes are even numbered it's either a 236 or 238 lobe, and the lift is probably really .602.
I'm not sure how much advance is ground in, but if you use the DCR calcualtor, I'd use these values since they're closer to Comp's lobes that they actually use:
236/242
.602/.610
113 +?
I'm not sure how much advance is ground in, but if you use the DCR calcualtor, I'd use these values since they're closer to Comp's lobes that they actually use:
236/242
.602/.610
113 +?
Originally Posted by N4cer
So is that really a 236 intake lobe? Since Comp's lobes are even numbered it's either a 236 or 238 lobe, and the lift is probably really .602.
I'm not sure how much advance is ground in, but if you use the DCR calcualtor, I'd use these values since they're closer to Comp's lobes that they actually use:
236/242
.602/.610
113 +?
I'm not sure how much advance is ground in, but if you use the DCR calcualtor, I'd use these values since they're closer to Comp's lobes that they actually use:
236/242
.602/.610
113 +?
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NO CAM CARD-boy does that sound familiar,called them up when i recieved my cam and heads,they said, we will mail it to you .Never happened! Called them to order more parts 2 weeks later,still no card,asked them to FAX it to my work number,NEVER HAPPENED.I just put it in and clayed the piston, got .075 intake,.085 exhast clearance.As far as advance, TSP told me MOST of there cams have 1 degree ground in.
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Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
NO CAM CARD-boy does that sound familiar,called them up when i recieved my cam and heads,they said, we will mail it to you .Never happened! Called them to order more parts 2 weeks later,still no card,asked them to FAX it to my work number,NEVER HAPPENED.I just put it in and clayed the piston, got .075 intake,.085 exhast clearance.As far as advance, TSP told me MOST of there cams have 1 degree ground in.
Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
NO CAM CARD-boy does that sound familiar,called them up when i recieved my cam and heads,they said, we will mail it to you .Never happened! Called them to order more parts 2 weeks later,still no card,asked them to FAX it to my work number,NEVER HAPPENED.I just put it in and clayed the piston, got .075 intake,.085 exhast clearance.As far as advance, TSP told me MOST of there cams have 1 degree ground in.
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
NO CAM CARD-boy does that sound familiar,called them up when i recieved my cam and heads,they said, we will mail it to you .Never happened! Called them to order more parts 2 weeks later,still no card,asked them to FAX it to my work number,NEVER HAPPENED.I just put it in and clayed the piston, got .075 intake,.085 exhast clearance.As far as advance, TSP told me MOST of there cams have 1 degree ground in.
Off of MS3 Cam card:
Camshaft type: GM LS1
Grind: TSP-MS3
Duration @ .050" Int. 237 / Ext. 242
Advertised Duration: Int. 286 / Ext. 291
Lobe lift: Intake 0.355 / Ext. 0.3585
Gross valve lift: Int. 0.603 / Ext. 0.609
Lobe seperation: 113
Advance ground in: 0
Valve timing @ .050":
Intake Open = 6 BTDC Close = 51 ABDC
Exhaust Open = 54 BBDC Close = 8 ATDC
Camshaft type: GM LS1
Grind: TSP-MS3
Duration @ .050" Int. 237 / Ext. 242
Advertised Duration: Int. 286 / Ext. 291
Lobe lift: Intake 0.355 / Ext. 0.3585
Gross valve lift: Int. 0.603 / Ext. 0.609
Lobe seperation: 113
Advance ground in: 0
Valve timing @ .050":
Intake Open = 6 BTDC Close = 51 ABDC
Exhaust Open = 54 BBDC Close = 8 ATDC
Originally Posted by SilverSS
Off of MS3 Cam card:
Camshaft type: GM LS1
Grind: TSP-MS3
Duration @ .050" Int. 237 / Ext. 242
Advertised Duration: Int. 286 / Ext. 291
Lobe lift: Intake 0.355 / Ext. 0.3585
Gross valve lift: Int. 0.603 / Ext. 0.609
Lobe seperation: 113
Advance ground in: 0
Valve timing @ .050":
Intake Open = 6 BTDC Close = 51 ABDC
Exhaust Open = 54 BBDC Close = 8 ATDC
Camshaft type: GM LS1
Grind: TSP-MS3
Duration @ .050" Int. 237 / Ext. 242
Advertised Duration: Int. 286 / Ext. 291
Lobe lift: Intake 0.355 / Ext. 0.3585
Gross valve lift: Int. 0.603 / Ext. 0.609
Lobe seperation: 113
Advance ground in: 0
Valve timing @ .050":
Intake Open = 6 BTDC Close = 51 ABDC
Exhaust Open = 54 BBDC Close = 8 ATDC
automatic trans not a manual here,i have seen small block chevys run as close as.050-.055 intake clearance at 7500 rpm.not saying i like it,but i have seen worse.tsp sinks the valves a little when you order the ms3 and the 5.3 -stage 2.5 with 2.02 valves just for this combo to work.He said they sell a lot of this combination,thats why i went with the truck heads over the ls6 heads. never too last yes ms3.on a side note my brother is an engine builder,has his own shop now for about 20 years,and every cam he orders from comp comes with a cam card.
Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
NO CAM CARD-boy does that sound familiar,called them up when i recieved my cam and heads,they said, we will mail it to you .Never happened! Called them to order more parts 2 weeks later,still no card,asked them to FAX it to my work number,NEVER HAPPENED.I just put it in and clayed the piston, got .075 intake,.085 exhast clearance.As far as advance, TSP told me MOST of there cams have 1 degree ground in.
not a street car,im not new too the race seen,read the above post.we have race cars that run in the high 8 second at 150 on motor alone.yes its tight and not for the normal guys.maybe TSP can respond to these concerns of those who are worried,i just was a little unhappy at not getting a cam card,this is gonna be a track only car from hear on.
