434 Stroker
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Re: 434 Stroker You guys have raised good points about the strokers but dont forget rod ratio. With stroke you need longer rods or you side load the piston which means alot of friction and quick wear. Also the pin sits higher in the piston and oil comsumption and other durability issues arise. I totally agree on the intake as a major factor also.
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Re: 434 Stroker Hey Ryan (9 Ball),
What size custom liners do MTI sell?? What's the bore sizes and can they be bored more than 0.030" from new too or more?? Do they sell them separate for guys like us in Australia so we could have a local machine shop install them??
Thanks! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
What size custom liners do MTI sell?? What's the bore sizes and can they be bored more than 0.030" from new too or more?? Do they sell them separate for guys like us in Australia so we could have a local machine shop install them??
Thanks! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Re: 434 Stroker I don't have that technical info on the liners. Your best bet would be to email Jayson, the owner of MTI and ask him personally.
JaysonMTI@aol.com
Regards,
Tony
JaysonMTI@aol.com
Regards,
Tony
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Re: 434 Stroker Well, it might be "under-square"...
But I don't really give a care. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
Four-Twenty-Seven is my number.
Race me and I'll put you under. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
But I don't really give a care. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
Four-Twenty-Seven is my number.
Race me and I'll put you under. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: 434 Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black LS1 T/A:
<strong>Well, it might be "under-square"...
But I don't really give a care. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
Four-Twenty-Seven is my number.
Race me and I'll put you under. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">st st st st st st st stroker rap
<strong>Well, it might be "under-square"...
But I don't really give a care. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
Four-Twenty-Seven is my number.
Race me and I'll put you under. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">st st st st st st st stroker rap
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Re: 434 Stroker [QUOTE]Originally posted by MattG:
[QB]ARE is just about finished building my 436 which is a 4.125 stroke and 4.100 bore
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My ARE 436 should ship in 1 week as well, can't wait to get it.
[QB]ARE is just about finished building my 436 which is a 4.125 stroke and 4.100 bore
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My ARE 436 should ship in 1 week as well, can't wait to get it.
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Re: 434 Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quickin:
<strong>[QUOTE]My ARE 436 should ship in 1 week as well, can't wait to get it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sweet.. What cam are you going with??
<strong>[QUOTE]My ARE 436 should ship in 1 week as well, can't wait to get it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sweet.. What cam are you going with??
Re: 434 Stroker Yeah, what cam are you other BIG motor guys going to run? Street cams or all-out performance?
Right now, I'm going to use the same cam that Colonel and PaiN are using (244/244 .610 112) since its a damn good hydraulic one. Next season I'd like to have a custom sheetmetal intake and a nice solid roller setup installed. 550+ rwhp all-motor would be too fun!
When I used to run nitrous on my old heads/cam setup, I pulled a best of 535 rwhp. I never got to run that size shot though, my clutch at the time would not hold it. I ran 130 mph trap speeds with 500 rwhp though. I'd LOVE to clear 130 mph trap speeds on motor now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Tony
Right now, I'm going to use the same cam that Colonel and PaiN are using (244/244 .610 112) since its a damn good hydraulic one. Next season I'd like to have a custom sheetmetal intake and a nice solid roller setup installed. 550+ rwhp all-motor would be too fun!
When I used to run nitrous on my old heads/cam setup, I pulled a best of 535 rwhp. I never got to run that size shot though, my clutch at the time would not hold it. I ran 130 mph trap speeds with 500 rwhp though. I'd LOVE to clear 130 mph trap speeds on motor now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Tony
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Re: 434 Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by strife:
<strong>pretty much the same as the s1 (thats the 244/244 610 112lsa isnt it?) but with 114 lsa I believe</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
<strong>pretty much the same as the s1 (thats the 244/244 610 112lsa isnt it?) but with 114 lsa I believe</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
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Re: 434 Stroker I think I'm going to try one of the XE-R lobes in the 422 I'm getting built. Maybe the 232 grind. Go here for the specs.
http://www.eastfork.cc/images/xe-r.jpg
OR
I might try a split duration grind(biased to the intake) with similiar lift and duration as the XE-R 232. A bore/stroker should be able to take advantage of the extra intake duration.
http://www.eastfork.cc/images/xe-r.jpg
OR
I might try a split duration grind(biased to the intake) with similiar lift and duration as the XE-R 232. A bore/stroker should be able to take advantage of the extra intake duration.
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Re: 434 Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black LS1 T/A:
<strong>Well, it might be "under-square"...
But I don't really give a care. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
Four-Twenty-Seven is my number.
Race me and I'll put you under. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's gonna be one wicked fother mucker Mike! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ April 08, 2002, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
<strong>Well, it might be "under-square"...
But I don't really give a care. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
Four-Twenty-Seven is my number.
Race me and I'll put you under. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's gonna be one wicked fother mucker Mike! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ April 08, 2002, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
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Re: 434 Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Yeah, what cam are you other BIG motor guys going to run? Street cams or all-out performance?
Right now, I'm going to use the same cam that Colonel and PaiN are using (244/244 .610 112) since its a damn good hydraulic one. Next season I'd like to have a custom sheetmetal intake and a nice solid roller setup installed. 550+ rwhp all-motor would be too fun!
When I used to run nitrous on my old heads/cam setup, I pulled a best of 535 rwhp. I never got to run that size shot though, my clutch at the time would not hold it. I ran 130 mph trap speeds with 500 rwhp though. I'd LOVE to clear 130 mph trap speeds on motor now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will go with a custom grind by Golden West Performance. I expect it'll be in the high .5xx to .600 range. I told them I want some lope, but to pass emissions and not cut off while idling in gear. We'll see what they end up with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>Yeah, what cam are you other BIG motor guys going to run? Street cams or all-out performance?
Right now, I'm going to use the same cam that Colonel and PaiN are using (244/244 .610 112) since its a damn good hydraulic one. Next season I'd like to have a custom sheetmetal intake and a nice solid roller setup installed. 550+ rwhp all-motor would be too fun!
When I used to run nitrous on my old heads/cam setup, I pulled a best of 535 rwhp. I never got to run that size shot though, my clutch at the time would not hold it. I ran 130 mph trap speeds with 500 rwhp though. I'd LOVE to clear 130 mph trap speeds on motor now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will go with a custom grind by Golden West Performance. I expect it'll be in the high .5xx to .600 range. I told them I want some lope, but to pass emissions and not cut off while idling in gear. We'll see what they end up with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
