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If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? If you dynoed 700 Horse Power NA at the flywheel, what would that equate to at the wheels going through a 4400 Yank converter, turbo 350 tranny, steel drive shaft, Ford 9" with 430 gears and a spool, 28" tires. Locked up ??? Not locked up ??? Just wondering. thanks tom <small>[ October 11, 2002, 08:47 PM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? a good rush and a 10 sec timeslip <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? Damn, 700fwhp N/A only equates to 10's? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? Well Tom if you did not have a Hot Tubbed car my guess,586HP at the wheels. Do I get a prize?LOL. |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? A Prize? You bet buddy. How about a few passes in the new MONSTER. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How would that be? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 2nd prize is one of those New York big buck drinks. Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? WooHoo,you bet buddy.I might even buy a round of those special drinks. 700 brake hp would make me giddy.Giddy-up. |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? John, looks like you figured around 17% loss through the drive train. |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? 570ish at the wheels and easy 9's with any decent chassis. |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? Good lord Tom...is that what your new motor is putting out? |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JP98SS: <strong>Good lord Tom...is that what your new motor is putting out?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No JP, but that is the prediction. Maybe a little more. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> My engine won't be ready for a month or so. tom <small>[ October 12, 2002, 04:19 AM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? 440 converter = 96% efficiency unlocked - loss of 4% turbo 350 - auto, but a decent one. Loss of 10% 9" with 4.30s - loss of 3% with 9", 1% gears. Total 4% steel driveshaft - maybe 1/2 % if even that Total loss is 4+10+3+1+0.5 = 18.5% 0.815 * 700 = 570-571 RWHP In reduced weight car, easy 9s. |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? You are really predicting 700 fwhp with LS1/LS6 style heads?? |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WeatherGuy: <strong>440 converter = 96% efficiency unlocked - loss of 4% turbo 350 - auto, but a decent one. Loss of 10% 9" with 4.30s - loss of 3% with 9", 1% gears. Total 4% steel driveshaft - maybe 1/2 % if even that Total loss is 4+10+3+1+0.5 = 18.5% 0.815 * 700 = 570-571 RWHP In reduced weight car, easy 9s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Weatherguy, That a great breakdown. Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fulton 1: <strong>Tom, Sorry if I've been under a rock, but would you mind outlining this new engine? Those are impressive power levels for N/A and I'm still on the fence as to how I want to proceed (N/A or FI). Would love to see what you're doing to get 700fwhp. Thanks!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The engine is all speculation at this point. I have no real specs at this time other than it will be a re-sleeved LS1 aluminum block. The bore at this point is undecided. The crank is undecided. The cam will be BIG but no specs yet other than it will be a solid roller. The final HP lies upon my decision on what compression ratio to go with. I still have an LS6 intake. To achieve this power level I may need a sheet metal intake. Can't afford one of those right now. I'm not saying it will be 700 FWHP right out of the shoot. It will take a little more $$$$ mods to achieve it. If it is possible at all. We will see. We are just talking right now. The engine should be started soon and that depends on how I decide to proceed. That's all I can say right now other than the rotating assembly will be strictly N/A. When the time comes I will post more info but I truely don't know right now. Tom |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer: <strong>A Prize? You bet buddy. How about a few passes in the new MONSTER. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How would that be? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 2nd prize is one of those New York big buck drinks. Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How about I buy you one of those special NY big buck drinks if you come out to Westhampton or E-Town .. I think I still owe you one anyway <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bspz28: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer: <strong>A Prize? You bet buddy. How about a few passes in the new MONSTER. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How would that be? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 2nd prize is one of those New York big buck drinks. Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How about I buy you one of those special NY big buck drinks if you come out to Westhampton or E-Town .. I think I still owe you one anyway <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll take you up on that Pete <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Bring your paycheck buddy. <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? Tom,now I know what the spec in spec motor is,speculation.LOL <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? Sounds good Tom! Right now I'm having fun driving around the 396 with the little 229 cam, but I'd like to throw a 250-duration size solid roller in there soon. Why don't you do a 4.125" bore, 4" stroke, 13.5:1 cr, LS6 heads, and 250ish duration solid roller setup? I bet you should get 520rwhp with your lou'se goosey tranny. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jfm: <strong>Tom,now I know what the spec in spec motor is,speculation.LOL <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your right John, it's all speculation at this point. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> |
Re: If you had 700 H/P NA at the flywheel what? sounds like we are going to have fun at keystone this spring! I just went with LS6 heads and head studs on my 422, should be done in 5-6 weeks |
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