Tom the roofer

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If you dynoed 700 Horse Power NA at the flywheel, what would that equate to at the wheels going through a 4400 Yank converter, turbo 350 tranny, steel drive shaft, Ford 9" with 430 gears and a spool, 28" tires.

Locked up ???

Not locked up ???

Just wondering.

thanks
tom

<small>[ October 11, 2002, 08:47 PM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small>

BYBYC5

a good rush and a 10 sec timeslip <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

unit213

Damn, 700fwhp N/A only equates to 10's? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

jfm

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Well Tom if you did not have a Hot Tubbed car my guess,586HP at the wheels.

Do I get a prize?LOL.

Tom the roofer

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A Prize? You bet buddy. How about a few passes in the new MONSTER. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How would that be? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 2nd prize is one of those New York big buck drinks.

Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

jfm

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WooHoo,you bet buddy.I might even buy a round of those special drinks.

700 brake hp would make me giddy.Giddy-up.

Tom the roofer

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John, looks like you figured around 17% loss through the drive train.

Skelton

570ish at the wheels and easy 9's with any decent chassis.

JP98SS

Good lord Tom...is that what your new motor is putting out?

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JP98SS:
<strong>Good lord Tom...is that what your new motor is putting out?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No JP, but that is the prediction. Maybe a little more. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> My engine won't be ready for a month or so.

tom

<small>[ October 12, 2002, 04:19 AM: Message edited by: Tom the roofer ]</small>

WeatherGuy

440 converter = 96% efficiency unlocked - loss of 4%

turbo 350 - auto, but a decent one. Loss of 10%

9" with 4.30s - loss of 3% with 9", 1% gears. Total 4%

steel driveshaft - maybe 1/2 % if even that

Total loss is 4+10+3+1+0.5 = 18.5%

0.815 * 700 = 570-571 RWHP

In reduced weight car, easy 9s.

Fenris Ulf

You are really predicting 700 fwhp with LS1/LS6 style heads??

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WeatherGuy:
<strong>440 converter = 96% efficiency unlocked - loss of 4%

turbo 350 - auto, but a decent one. Loss of 10%

9" with 4.30s - loss of 3% with 9", 1% gears. Total 4%

steel driveshaft - maybe 1/2 % if even that

Total loss is 4+10+3+1+0.5 = 18.5%

0.815 * 700 = 570-571 RWHP

In reduced weight car, easy 9s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks Weatherguy, That a great breakdown.
Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fulton 1:
<strong>Tom,
Sorry if I've been under a rock, but would you mind outlining this new engine? Those are impressive power levels for N/A and I'm still on the fence as to how I want to proceed (N/A or FI). Would love to see what you're doing to get 700fwhp.

Thanks!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The engine is all speculation at this point. I have no real specs at this time other than it will be a re-sleeved LS1 aluminum block.

The bore at this point is undecided. The crank is undecided. The cam will be BIG but no specs yet other than it will be a solid roller.

The final HP lies upon my decision on what compression ratio to go with.

I still have an LS6 intake. To achieve this power level I may need a sheet metal intake. Can't afford one of those right now.

I'm not saying it will be 700 FWHP right out of the shoot. It will take a little more $$$$ mods to achieve it. If it is possible at all. We will see. We are just talking right now. The engine should be started soon and that depends on how I decide to proceed.

That's all I can say right now other than the rotating assembly will be strictly N/A.

When the time comes I will post more info but I truely don't know right now.

Tom

bspz28

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer:
<strong>A Prize? You bet buddy. How about a few passes in the new MONSTER. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How would that be? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 2nd prize is one of those New York big buck drinks.

Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How about I buy you one of those special NY big buck drinks if you come out to Westhampton or E-Town .. I think I still owe you one anyway <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bspz28:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tom the roofer:
<strong>A Prize? You bet buddy. How about a few passes in the new MONSTER. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How would that be? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> 2nd prize is one of those New York big buck drinks.

Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How about I buy you one of those special NY big buck drinks if you come out to Westhampton or E-Town .. I think I still owe you one anyway <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll take you up on that Pete <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Bring your paycheck buddy. <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" />
tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

jfm

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Tom,now I know what the spec in spec motor is,speculation.LOL

<img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />

Terry Burger

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Sounds good Tom! Right now I'm having fun driving around the 396 with the little 229 cam, but I'd like to throw a 250-duration size solid roller in there soon. Why don't you do a 4.125" bore, 4" stroke, 13.5:1 cr, LS6 heads, and 250ish duration solid roller setup? I bet you should get 520rwhp with your lou'se goosey tranny. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Tom the roofer

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jfm:
<strong>Tom,now I know what the spec in spec motor is,speculation.LOL

<img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your right John, it's all speculation at this point. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Tom <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

highgmc

sounds like we are going to have fun at keystone this spring! I just went with LS6 heads and head studs on my 422, should be done in 5-6 weeks