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Basically I want one that is quiet... I drive a 1999 WS6 that is bone stock and I am really trying to go for the "don't know if he's stock" style.

I have already committed to getting a Borla Exhaust, but now I don't know if its really what I want to do. After listening, and driving my car for a few months now I quite like the stock exhaust, albeit it maybe restrictive, I can still put a cutout on it to open it up.

Here is what my plan is so far; and all this is going sometime around April 13th.

Borla, Pacesetter LT, ORY, SLP Lid, and thats all i've got planned for right this second, but I have also planned on getting a Torquer 2 Cam. I have heard this cam a few times and it sure does sound nice coming through TD's but I dont know how to judge if its right for me or not.... I dont even really know how to tell or not -_-..

About the borla again, I am not sure if I want to put it on or leave it off... and just go with the pacesetters.. but my question is if I don't do the borla how badly am I going to be restricting the exhaust, and if I have a cutout is it that big of a deal?

And with that being said, what is a good quite cam that yields good power gains??

Sorry for the rambling, a bit tired and not very sure on what I want lol.

EDS01SS

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whatever cam you go with just make sure it has a lobe seperation of 114 degrees or higher. That will give you the stock sound you are looking for

mcamarols1

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keep the overlap near stock too, one of my good buddys on here made 350whp & 350wtq(edit: on a mustang dyno w/out a tune, w/ a tune he was at 375whp 358wtq) on a z06 cam, he had full bolt ons, 4.10s and a good clutch his car was fast.
but in my opinion he could have made more power if he would have bought a custom grind cam, check out texas-speed, thunder racing, they can grind a cam for u, also check out ls1sounds.com.

u mentioned u heard the TorqerV.2, thats my setup(on a 112lsa), going through a hooker headers, ORY, & magnaflow cat back, at idle, there is no doubt that its not stock, its nice an quiet but it still has a lope, (and if i open up the cutout , well u kno the rest)u can try the slp dual-dual, its slightly queiter and flows very well, and for those times u get the urge to be louder just open up ur cut-out. im sure u can get to about 380-400whp and still b pretty "stock sounding" but u have to put together a good setup.

BAD2000TA

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I just installed MTI's Stealth II cam. Started right up, didn't even hunt for an idle. Settled right into 750 rpm. Exhaust sounds the same. I still will have it tuned, but it's very close to stock, but driving above 3000 rpm it comes alive. Runs right up to the rev limiter. Stats are: 224 in, 220 ex, .581 lift in, .581 ex, 116 degree lobe sep.

kilrb

That's not exactly true... A 114 LSA on a small cam is apples to oranges on a large cam. A 23x/23x cam on a 114 is going to have waaaaaay more overlap than a 224/224 on a 114, which will have waaaaaaay more overlap than a 212/212 on a 114.

Lope is all in the overlap.

You are going to lose a lot of the stockish sound going through long tubes and into an off road Y and Borla's. Plus, you are talking about a 232/234 cam. Even on a 114 LSA, you are going to have 5 degrees of overlap. With longtubes, no cats, and a Borla catback, you are going to be on several planets away from a stock sounding car.

I just put in a 224/224 .581/.581 on a 112, which has 0 degrees of overlap (therefore will lope less than the Torquer V2). I have a Z06 Titanium catback with longtubes and cats, and it's extremely tame at idle. There is a little lope, but the quiet exhaust hides it very very well. I have heard the same cam through no cats and a louder catback, and it sounds like a funny-car.

Optimal

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Well I have not 100% decided on the Borla... I do want a nice quiet sound and I dont think changing the exhaust is a good idea to get that. Plus I would have a cutout for when I want to play. Is having a stock exhaust going to hurt the car at all for daily driving? I do plan on keeping this a good long while and it is not a daily driver, and it has fairly low miles for its year (50k).

Thanks for the input guys, any help is appreciated.

Patrick G

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If you want to sound stock, you'll blow it with long tubes, off road y-pipe and Borla exhaust. Those rasp like crazy with an ORY. Headers will accent any cam you have (noise will be amplified).

If you want true stealth, go with a cam that has around -10 degrees of overlap at .050" and run an SLP dual dual catback. You can make over 400 rwhp with stock manifolds and factory catback, but you'll need ported heads, a Thunder Racing CheaTR cam and a FAST 90 to do it.

Optimal

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rasp is the absolute LAST thing I want... dangit -_-...

kilrb

Listen to Patrick, he's THE cam man!

Just to give you an idea of how tame a 0 degree overlap cam can be, here's a sound clip of my untuned 224/224 on a 112 through a stock Z06 catback. The idle is at about 600rpm; when it's tuned, it will likely be a bit higher, and thus smoother. It's actually not that loud in person. The camera angle makes it sound somewhat loud-ish, but it's really not. If you hear the same cam with no cats and a Borla, it sounds incredibly different. Just keep cats on it and keep the catback tame, and you can run a fairly decent sized cam without it screaming "I'm cammed!"

Here's a sound clip of the same cam with a loud catback... http://www.ls1sounds.com/camshafts/M...uned-98WS6.mov

And here's mine with a mild one...

HAZ-Matt

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I'm considering picking up either new or perhaps slightly used LS6 heads and cam which would pretty much be 100% stealth. Of course most on here will tell you not to do that and just do something like the TR Cheatr cam I think.

Optimal

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*sigh* lol...

In the end I just one that isn't annoyingly loud to be driven down the street, and I don't want it to be raspy.

If I go TD's I will loose all hope of a rasp correct? Like I said I just don't want rasp and I don't want it to be LOUD. If someone can figure it out that its not stock by listening to it a littler closer thats fine, but I don't want people 2-3 cars back at a light to be like "Wheres the race car at?"

I am likely asking to much and will never find exactly what I am looking for, but I do want to keep this car for a very long time, and want to do everything correct.

Thanks for all the input this far, keep it coming .