Quiet Cam
Quiet Cam Basically I want one that is quiet... I drive a 1999 WS6 that is bone stock and I am really trying to go for the "don't know if he's stock" style.
I have already committed to getting a Borla Exhaust, but now I don't know if its really what I want to do. After listening, and driving my car for a few months now I quite like the stock exhaust, albeit it maybe restrictive, I can still put a cutout on it to open it up.
Here is what my plan is so far; and all this is going sometime around April 13th.
Borla, Pacesetter LT, ORY, SLP Lid, and thats all i've got planned for right this second, but I have also planned on getting a Torquer 2 Cam. I have heard this cam a few times and it sure does sound nice coming through TD's but I dont know how to judge if its right for me or not.... I dont even really know how to tell or not -_-..
About the borla again, I am not sure if I want to put it on or leave it off... and just go with the pacesetters.. but my question is if I don't do the borla how badly am I going to be restricting the exhaust, and if I have a cutout is it that big of a deal?
And with that being said, what is a good quite cam that yields good power gains??
Sorry for the rambling, a bit tired and not very sure on what I want lol.
I have already committed to getting a Borla Exhaust, but now I don't know if its really what I want to do. After listening, and driving my car for a few months now I quite like the stock exhaust, albeit it maybe restrictive, I can still put a cutout on it to open it up.
Here is what my plan is so far; and all this is going sometime around April 13th.
Borla, Pacesetter LT, ORY, SLP Lid, and thats all i've got planned for right this second, but I have also planned on getting a Torquer 2 Cam. I have heard this cam a few times and it sure does sound nice coming through TD's but I dont know how to judge if its right for me or not.... I dont even really know how to tell or not -_-..
About the borla again, I am not sure if I want to put it on or leave it off... and just go with the pacesetters.. but my question is if I don't do the borla how badly am I going to be restricting the exhaust, and if I have a cutout is it that big of a deal?
And with that being said, what is a good quite cam that yields good power gains??
Sorry for the rambling, a bit tired and not very sure on what I want lol.
Last edited by Optimal; Mar 26, 2007 at 01:20 AM.
keep the overlap near stock too, one of my good buddys on here made 350whp & 350wtq(edit: on a mustang dyno w/out a tune, w/ a tune he was at 375whp 358wtq) on a z06 cam, he had full bolt ons, 4.10s and a good clutch his car was fast.
but in my opinion he could have made more power if he would have bought a custom grind cam, check out texas-speed, thunder racing, they can grind a cam for u, also check out ls1sounds.com.
u mentioned u heard the TorqerV.2, thats my setup(on a 112lsa), going through a hooker headers, ORY, & magnaflow cat back, at idle, there is no doubt that its not stock, its nice an quiet but it still has a lope, (and if i open up the cutout
, well u kno the rest)u can try the slp dual-dual, its slightly queiter and flows very well, and for those times u get the urge to be louder just open up ur cut-out. im sure u can get to about 380-400whp and still b pretty "stock sounding" but u have to put together a good setup.
but in my opinion he could have made more power if he would have bought a custom grind cam, check out texas-speed, thunder racing, they can grind a cam for u, also check out ls1sounds.com.
u mentioned u heard the TorqerV.2, thats my setup(on a 112lsa), going through a hooker headers, ORY, & magnaflow cat back, at idle, there is no doubt that its not stock, its nice an quiet but it still has a lope, (and if i open up the cutout
, well u kno the rest)u can try the slp dual-dual, its slightly queiter and flows very well, and for those times u get the urge to be louder just open up ur cut-out. im sure u can get to about 380-400whp and still b pretty "stock sounding" but u have to put together a good setup. Last edited by mcamarols1; Mar 26, 2007 at 08:00 PM.
I just installed MTI's Stealth II cam. Started right up, didn't even hunt for an idle. Settled right into 750 rpm. Exhaust sounds the same. I still will have it tuned, but it's very close to stock, but driving above 3000 rpm it comes alive. Runs right up to the rev limiter. Stats are: 224 in, 220 ex, .581 lift in, .581 ex, 116 degree lobe sep.
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Originally Posted by EDS01SS
whatever cam you go with just make sure it has a lobe seperation of 114 degrees or higher. That will give you the stock sound you are looking for
Lope is all in the overlap.
You are going to lose a lot of the stockish sound going through long tubes and into an off road Y and Borla's. Plus, you are talking about a 232/234 cam. Even on a 114 LSA, you are going to have 5 degrees of overlap. With longtubes, no cats, and a Borla catback, you are going to be on several planets away from a stock sounding car.
I just put in a 224/224 .581/.581 on a 112, which has 0 degrees of overlap (therefore will lope less than the Torquer V2). I have a Z06 Titanium catback with longtubes and cats, and it's extremely tame at idle. There is a little lope, but the quiet exhaust hides it very very well. I have heard the same cam through no cats and a louder catback, and it sounds like a funny-car.
Well I have not 100% decided on the Borla... I do want a nice quiet sound and I dont think changing the exhaust is a good idea to get that. Plus I would have a cutout for when I want to play. Is having a stock exhaust going to hurt the car at all for daily driving? I do plan on keeping this a good long while and it is not a daily driver, and it has fairly low miles for its year (50k).
Thanks for the input guys, any help is appreciated.
Thanks for the input guys, any help is appreciated.
If you want to sound stock, you'll blow it with long tubes, off road y-pipe and Borla exhaust. Those rasp like crazy with an ORY. Headers will accent any cam you have (noise will be amplified).
If you want true stealth, go with a cam that has around -10 degrees of overlap at .050" and run an SLP dual dual catback. You can make over 400 rwhp with stock manifolds and factory catback, but you'll need ported heads, a Thunder Racing CheaTR cam and a FAST 90 to do it.
If you want true stealth, go with a cam that has around -10 degrees of overlap at .050" and run an SLP dual dual catback. You can make over 400 rwhp with stock manifolds and factory catback, but you'll need ported heads, a Thunder Racing CheaTR cam and a FAST 90 to do it.
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2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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Originally Posted by Optimal
rasp is the absolute LAST thing I want... dangit -_-...
Just to give you an idea of how tame a 0 degree overlap cam can be, here's a sound clip of my untuned 224/224 on a 112 through a stock Z06 catback. The idle is at about 600rpm; when it's tuned, it will likely be a bit higher, and thus smoother. It's actually not that loud in person. The camera angle makes it sound somewhat loud-ish, but it's really not. If you hear the same cam with no cats and a Borla, it sounds incredibly different. Just keep cats on it and keep the catback tame, and you can run a fairly decent sized cam without it screaming "I'm cammed!"
Here's a sound clip of the same cam with a loud catback... http://www.ls1sounds.com/camshafts/M...uned-98WS6.mov
And here's mine with a mild one...
I'm considering picking up either new or perhaps slightly used LS6 heads and cam which would pretty much be 100% stealth. Of course most on here will tell you not to do that and just do something like the TR Cheatr cam I think.
*sigh* lol...
In the end I just one that isn't annoyingly loud to be driven down the street, and I don't want it to be raspy.
If I go TD's I will loose all hope of a rasp correct? Like I said I just don't want rasp and I don't want it to be LOUD. If someone can figure it out that its not stock by listening to it a littler closer thats fine, but I don't want people 2-3 cars back at a light to be like "Wheres the race car at?"
I am likely asking to much and will never find exactly what I am looking for, but I do want to keep this car for a very long time, and want to do everything correct.
Thanks for all the input this far, keep it coming
.
In the end I just one that isn't annoyingly loud to be driven down the street, and I don't want it to be raspy.
If I go TD's I will loose all hope of a rasp correct? Like I said I just don't want rasp and I don't want it to be LOUD. If someone can figure it out that its not stock by listening to it a littler closer thats fine, but I don't want people 2-3 cars back at a light to be like "Wheres the race car at?"
I am likely asking to much and will never find exactly what I am looking for, but I do want to keep this car for a very long time, and want to do everything correct.
Thanks for all the input this far, keep it coming
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