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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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I spun a '99 LS1 shortblock (23K miles supposedly when I got it) to 7100rpm hundreds of times during the 20K miles I owned it. I installed Katech rod bolts, ported LS6 oil pump, LS2 Tchain, TSP 233/239 cam and ported heads with LS6 intake. Dyno charts show the HP from 6K-7100rpm to be just about flat. It would pull from 4500-7100rpm like a raped ape.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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I'm gonna skip some of this...


I wonder if lifter pump-up under high RPM/High oil pressure would have caused a valve to contact a piston.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:16 AM
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If thats the case, explain the holes in the block.... ;-)
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:25 AM
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Lets see some pics
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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^^^diddo, I wanna see some carnage
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NSTY WS6
If thats the case, explain the holes in the block.... ;-)
The holes in the block are likely the result of the snapped rod thrashing back and forth after it broke.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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IMO 7000+ rpm is asking for trouble unless the motor has been really well put together. A fairly stock 120,000mi short block? I'm not surprised it let go... Sorry for your luck, but now you can build it much stronger.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Worked for about an hour and a half last night. I got the right hand head off and there are no eye brows on the pistons. All is good on that side, but the intake manifold is full of tiny piston particles. I expect to find a missing piston on the left bank this afternoon. I will get pics when it's all down.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bluecamaroz28


Why would they make camshafts for cam only motors, that has 7200 RPM range label.
Whos says TSP made these for stock motors? For all the know it could be going into a forged shortblock
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1IMPULSE
Whos says TSP made these for stock motors? For all the know it could be going into a forged shortblock
Don't mean TSP, exactly. Look at most shelf cams from Comp Cams for stock cubes LS1, most of them have 7000 or 7200 RPM limit.

So, what's the safe limit on stock short block, RPM wise?
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bluecamaroz28

So, what's the safe limit on stock short block, RPM wise?
I wouldnt take it over 6500 on a regular basis.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bluecamaroz28
Don't mean TSP, exactly. Look at most shelf cams from Comp Cams for stock cubes LS1, most of them have 7000 or 7200 RPM limit.

So, what's the safe limit on stock short block, RPM wise?
Who says these cams are designed for stock LS1's? Stock cubes and stock period is a BIG difference.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bluecamaroz28
Will ARP rod bolts be safe enough with stock rods and 7000?

I know some people are getting away with spinning to 7000RPM a cam only motor with stock rods and bolts. But, what defines the safety limits?
7k+ is fine on arps. ive done 10.5k on other motors (non ls1) with no issues what so ever. at that rpm the bolt isnt your problem.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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this makes me think twice about the cam i want to get, i guess she cant handle 7k+.
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Originally Posted by datboibrad
7k+ is fine on arps. ive done 10.5k on other motors (non ls1) with no issues what so ever. at that rpm the bolt isnt your problem.
and a CBR could do 13K, but were talking about LS1's
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I got the LH head off yesterday. The rod and wrist pin are intact, but the No. 1 piston is gone. The sleeve is cracked and punctured on that cylinder, all other cylinders are OK w/ no signs of PTV contact. I've got pics but I didn't bring my digi cam cable. I've got an sd card reader at work, but my camera has an xd card.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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damn dude.. good luck with that... (im the dude that bought ur GTO T56 awhile back)
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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PICS!!




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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Damn, good pics. Time to upgrade
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