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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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btw did you get a new timing chain, oil pump and belt accesories also?

Yes, i got a double roller timing chain and oil pump. U dont need to buy the double roller since i've heard the ls2 timing chain is strong and priced well . Since you drive a A4 you will need to get a tune.
A double roller is waaaaayyyyy overkill for a hotcam, just get LS2 chain for $30 from anyone of the sponsors. And your going to need a tune no matter what cam you get, whether its a M6 or A4. Every cam needs to be tuned, thats just the way it is.
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A double roller is waaaaayyyyy overkill for a hotcam, just get LS2 chain for $30 from anyone of the sponsors. And your going to need a tune no matter what cam you get, whether its a M6 or A4. Every cam needs to be tuned, thats just the way it is.
thats what i was thinking about the timing chain, i know i'll need a tune definately!
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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Yeah but why not spend the extra $100 and get a better cam? If $100 is going to break the bank, than perhaps modding your car might not be the smartest idea. If he gets a good spring like a PRC dual and doesn't go crazy with the cam, and gets something like a TR224 or a TR 230 I think he would be happier all around. Supposedly the PRC duals are good for 40K miles?


Also, is this the same D James from CamaroZ28.com that lives by me (Livonia, MI) that I've tried to contact from time to time and doesn't return PM's?
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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double roller is waaaaayyyyy overkill for a hotcam, just get LS2 chain for $30 from anyone of the sponsors. And your going to need a tune no matter what cam you get, whether its a M6 or A4. Every cam needs to be tuned, thats just the way it is.


i think everyone knows a tune is required with any cam change. However, u are able to drive the car without the tune when running a hotcam with an M6. The car didnt' cut off on me and the power was pretty impressive for a small cam non tuned. Just get ready to feel the car bucking below 1500 rpms HA.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Get a damn MS4 John, lol
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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ms4 and 1.85rr ftw
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vidal77boxing
i think everyone knows a tune is required with any cam change. However, u are able to drive the car without the tune when running a hotcam with an M6. The car didnt' cut off on me and the power was pretty impressive for a small cam non tuned. Just get ready to feel the car bucking below 1500 rpms HA.

Yes, you are able to drive the cam. Like, drive it to get it tuned. The air/fuel ratio is WAY off and you can damage your engine by running too rich or to lean. Revving it up where you can feel the power is stupid, as a the effects of a fuel problem are only magnified with RPM.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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John, any reason why you don't want to do a torque converter?
The previous owner of the green car in sig went 11.57@ 117 with a hot cam + heads and all the supporting bolt ons with a 3800 stall. Right now it has stock exhaust, same heads with an LS6 cam, no other power mods, stock stall with 4:10's, the car is real fun to drive, and passes smog all day long!
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Hello
I have a 99 A4 SS with the HotCam kit. Stock TC and has 3.73 gears. Without a tune, a bitch to drive. with a tune it can be almost like stock. With a slight lope though . Have SLP Longtubes w/ catted Y and Dynomax Bullet Muffler and Borla Cat-Back. QTP Cutout at the Borla flange, when it is open the car sounds nasty. Had the car dynoed before headers and full exhaust, car made 320rwhp. The headers and exhaust made a big difference in power, WOW. No dyno since, so can't compare. You will need a tune, but the cam is a fun one to have if you are not looking for way big hp numbers.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Yes, you are able to drive the cam. Like, drive it to get it tuned. The air/fuel ratio is WAY off and you can damage your engine by running too rich or to lean. Revving it up where you can feel the power is stupid, as a the effects of a fuel problem are only magnified with RPM.

I drove the car without tune for 2 weeks with no probs but the bucking. Also the check engine light was throwing code 0300 which is common for the cam swap. I don't disagree a tune is required with any cam swap, but the car was running great plus i checked the plugs before the tune to see if the car had a rich/lean condition.
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Originally Posted by Spellbound
John, any reason why you don't want to do a torque converter?
The previous owner of the green car in sig went 11.57@ 117 with a hot cam + heads and all the supporting bolt ons with a 3800 stall. Right now it has stock exhaust, same heads with an LS6 cam, no other power mods, stock stall with 4:10's, the car is real fun to drive, and passes smog all day long!
hahahaha i plan on doin a torque converter first, probably a 3000 stall. passes smog huh???? tell me how?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
hahahaha i plan on doin a torque converter first, probably a 3000 stall. passes smog huh???? tell me how?
Stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats, & y pipe. Heads don't really affect smog and the LS6 cam (02) is a gm part that was made to pass smog!
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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very good point duane! hey quick question, i'm still learning everything about the LS1 . . . how do i know which pushrods to get when i order my Hot Cam?
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