Trex Daily Driver!?!?!?
Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
the only thing that turned me off about the trex is the powerband doesnt start until 3500 RPMs and the MS4 starts at 2100
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2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
That's all marketing hooey. They have nearly the same valve events and overlap so their powerbands are going to be very similar. The MS4 is a BIG cam. Nice, but BIG.
I'm running a MS4 with a 3200 Vigalante and 3.73 gears and I daily drive it. I haven't had any surging problems at all with it. But like PatrickG said a 230/230 112 will be a lot stronger around town. The Torquer V2 I ran before this cam was alot more responsive and stayed in its powerband just about all the time.
If you are looking for around 420rwhp, go with what Patrick G and Predator-Z are recommending. Should be doable with a decent tune. Although I do have tuned several cars with MS3, MS4 and T-Rex cams that do drive around on the street daily with them. They do have the supporting mods for those cams, and can tool around at 1700 rpms in 6th (~65mph) with no bucking. As stated though, the tune will need to be almost perfect. 
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Do you want to be a dyno queen? or a performer on the tarmac?
If the second is your choice, then yes it is a better choice cam.
My self I'm partial to this one in that range:
231/240 .643/.608 112+4 LSA
This is a custom grind LSK/XE-R, made over 400rwhp in big stall A4s so your goal in M6 would be a piece of cake.
If the second is your choice, then yes it is a better choice cam.
My self I'm partial to this one in that range:
231/240 .643/.608 112+4 LSA
This is a custom grind LSK/XE-R, made over 400rwhp in big stall A4s so your goal in M6 would be a piece of cake.
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DO NOT take any advice from people that dont have personal experience. ME otherwise DD my TREX everyday wihtout ANY problems it honestly drives like stock, and yes i have a real good tuner (shaner). it makes sick power, and pulls even sicker. yet drives like stock... 4.10 gears ls7 clutch, plus full bolt on car...
a couple of things will have to come into play when ur lookin into this.. dont listen to these dumb ***** on here that say "good luck" and other bs cus they have had no expericnce with DD a huge cam... listen to someone who has had expericnce and knws wat the are talkin about.
a couple of things will have to come into play when ur lookin into this.. dont listen to these dumb ***** on here that say "good luck" and other bs cus they have had no expericnce with DD a huge cam... listen to someone who has had expericnce and knws wat the are talkin about.
Originally Posted by andypz28
who is shaner? did you do the tune in person or was this a mailed tune?
I have a comp xer 232/234 .598/.595 and am happy with it. It makes good power but you can feel the dealy before it really starts pulling. Bigger duration means more rpms before the numbers go up. For a driver you want something that makes power as soon as you hit the throttle. T-rex doesnt do this, you have to twist the thing to make power. I agree with Patrick G, get a cam in the 230 range and you wont regret it.
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
good luck
Originally Posted by LightEmUpLs1
dont listen to these dumb ***** on here that say "good luck" and other bs cus they have had no expericnce with DD a huge cam... listen to someone who has had expericnce and knws wat the are talkin about.
you seriously need to read some of the **** you type before you post it man. and there is no way your Trex drives like stock, no matter how much you want us to believe it does.
Big cams certainly can be very street friendly, if you do it right. Something along the line of a MS4 or T-Rex won't like stock compression and a restrictive exhaust. I'm running the MS4 now, but with good heads and a big list of bolt-ons parts, and a lot of compression. The car DOES drive extremely well, better than my old 222/222 cam in fact. The engine is very responsive and the power output is quite smooth. I can't say how it would behave in a manual trans car, but in my A4 the engine behaves under load at 1200rpm in 4th gear lockup.
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Originally Posted by LightEmUpLs1
DO NOT take any advice from people that dont have personal experience. ME otherwise DD my TREX everyday wihtout ANY problems it honestly drives like stock, and yes i have a real good tuner (shaner). it makes sick power, and pulls even sicker. yet drives like stock... 4.10 gears ls7 clutch, plus full bolt on car...
a couple of things will have to come into play when ur lookin into this.. dont listen to these dumb ***** on here that say "good luck" and other bs cus they have had no expericnce with DD a huge cam... listen to someone who has had expericnce and knws wat the are talkin about.
a couple of things will have to come into play when ur lookin into this.. dont listen to these dumb ***** on here that say "good luck" and other bs cus they have had no expericnce with DD a huge cam... listen to someone who has had expericnce and knws wat the are talkin about.
2- I've driven more big cams than you have hair on your face. Another slender remark like this one and I'll give a few days rest to think about it.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
1- Yeah right, doesn't lope either, just like stock.
2- I've driven more big cams than you have hair on your face. Another slender remark like this one and I'll give a few days rest to think about it.
2- I've driven more big cams than you have hair on your face. Another slender remark like this one and I'll give a few days rest to think about it.
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
1- Yeah right, doesn't lope either, just like stock.
2- I've driven more big cams than you have hair on your face. Another slender remark like this one and I'll give a few days rest to think about it.
2- I've driven more big cams than you have hair on your face. Another slender remark like this one and I'll give a few days rest to think about it.
Or at least grow some more hair on his face? 
I have tuned probably more T-Rex cams than Shaner has and I can say with confidence that with the right attention to detail, they can be daily driven, especially with an LS6 intake and small stock TB. Going to a FAST 90 with a NW TB makes them much harder to tune. Gotta spend LOTS more time to do it right. Let's just try not to mislead people into thinking they can get a T-Rex to be as easy to drive as a stock cam without a badass driveability tune. Without that, you're just handing out mis-information.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
First off, I do not believe in mail order tuning. Especially for larger cams. The larger the cam, the more time needed to dial it in WITH the car.
Secondly, all you who THINK the T-Rex and MS4 and alike have no bottom end have clearly never driven a car with one of these cams. I know mine is very strong down low and gets stronger as I climb the tach
Yes, these larger cams can be DDed if tuned right. I am still working on my tune. but it is getting better. Less bucking down low, better idle, fuel economy getting better (although still not great). I am a novice at tuning, so a pro could get it dialed in just right.
Secondly, all you who THINK the T-Rex and MS4 and alike have no bottom end have clearly never driven a car with one of these cams. I know mine is very strong down low and gets stronger as I climb the tach
Yes, these larger cams can be DDed if tuned right. I am still working on my tune. but it is getting better. Less bucking down low, better idle, fuel economy getting better (although still not great). I am a novice at tuning, so a pro could get it dialed in just right.
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Patriot Golds will be fine, but seriously, that is too big of a cam unless you're willing to dish out the $$$ for supporting mods. How are you gonna feel when a 228 cammed guy whip your butt from a stand.
Be reasonable, a good 23x cam with the righ VEs will sound as mean and perform much better all around.
Be reasonable, a good 23x cam with the righ VEs will sound as mean and perform much better all around.
Glad to see someone knows what the hell he is talking about. Huge cams will cause you to get beat down out on the street. I really dont understand why people are into just "PEAK" numbers. Area under the curve is what its about homey.