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217zenki Oct 16, 2007 05:39 PM

5g's for a build.. Opinions
 
Im looking to rebuild my ls1 or take it another route.. Ive been looking around trying to figure out the best prices but havent came up with much..Im looking for the best bang for the buck.. Opinions please.. Note Ill be attempting to do all the labor myself.. Ive rebuilt a 350 ,318 and a 360 before so Im hoping this ls build wont be any tougher..

theinstag8r Oct 16, 2007 06:08 PM

I plan on doing heads/cam(Texas Speed) ,fast 90/90, and a 12 bolt (moser) for around 5g. hopefully should get me anywhere in the 450-500 at the wheels, then I'll probably be needing a clutch, doing all the work myself aside of the tune.

217zenki Oct 16, 2007 06:29 PM

Im looking to build the bottom end..

bad6as Oct 16, 2007 07:23 PM

the stock crank can hold a good bit over 700 i think, get some forged pistons and rods. what is it that you want to reaplce and what are you looking to do to the car

DONAIMIAN Oct 16, 2007 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by bad6as (Post 7958115)
the stock crank can hold a good bit over 700 i think, get some forged pistons and rods. what is it that you want to reaplce and what are you looking to do to the car

Stock crank has held over 1000.

heavymetals Oct 16, 2007 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by 217zenki (Post 7957781)
Im looking to build the bottom end..

Why?

Does it need it?

N4cer Oct 16, 2007 08:13 PM

If you plan on big power it will. Might as well forge it now so you can use the parts that can be reused, instead of waiting on it to break and trash tons of stuff in the process.

1999ssls1 Oct 16, 2007 08:21 PM

Forge it and spray the guts out of it. JMO

transamfreak01 Oct 16, 2007 10:18 PM

yeah not to hi jack this thred but how much would it cost roughly to forge the motor say for nitrous

217zenki Oct 16, 2007 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by heavymetals (Post 7958192)
Why?

Does it need it?

I bought this car for 4g's the clock reads 160k but the seller claimed it was its 2nd engine with 80k on it.. The engine does have some stock# writing in yellow on it as if it was a junkyard engine.. But also when I first start it up it puts out a quick puff of slight white smoke..

1999ssls1 Oct 16, 2007 10:25 PM

Just a good set off flat tops and prefferably some h beam rods. Roughly 1200 dollars for rods and pistons.

217zenki Oct 16, 2007 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by bad6as (Post 7958115)
the stock crank can hold a good bit over 700 i think, get some forged pistons and rods. what is it that you want to reaplce and what are you looking to do to the car

Some dd and to the strip.. I personally dont care about the comfortness of dd .. As long as it idles at a stop light Im ready to rock then.. I have other cars to drive daily..I want to replace majority of everything.. ls6 ported oilpump ,double roller timing chain ,headers,intake(not sure which fits in my budget?)clutch.. along thse lines.. Also i would try to buy as much used bolt ons from the classifieds here to save here and there..

1999ssls1 Oct 16, 2007 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by 217zenki (Post 7959476)
I bought this car for 4g's the clock reads 160k but the seller claimed it was its 2nd engine with 80k on it.. The engine does have some stock# writing in yellow on it as if it was a junkyard engine.. But also when I first start it up it puts out a quick puff of slight white smoke..

The white smoke is probably caused by oil in the intake. A catch can will solve that problem.

217zenki Oct 16, 2007 10:27 PM

I was thinking about the vengenance vinidicator cam and the trick flow heads to go with it .. Forge the bottom and spray the hell out of it.. Sound good and doable for 5g's? Maybe not the Nitrous kit but everything else?

217zenki Oct 16, 2007 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by 1999ssls1 (Post 7959494)
The white smoke is probably caused by oil in the intake. A catch can will solve that problem.

Ive ran catch cans on previous turbo cars but whats the typical way for routing a catch can on the ls?

heavymetals Oct 16, 2007 10:44 PM

Well, $5k to sink into the motor.

That's a tough one.

If you rebuild the motor (forge and whatever) and given that the crank isn't wornout or needs work you can make it go faster.

I would think almost $5k in parts without the spray though.

N4cer Oct 16, 2007 10:50 PM

I just did a 408 shortblock with good parts for under $4k.

217zenki Oct 16, 2007 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by N4cer (Post 7959639)
I just did a 408 shortblock with good parts for under $4k.

Really what kind of #'s r u making..

N4cer Oct 16, 2007 11:20 PM

Just got it back from the machine shop today. Still have to gap my rings and button it up. Then swap my parts over and install. I'm sure it's not gonna be a dyno queen, and I'm not a ricer, so dyno numbers won't matter. We'll see what kind of TIMES I run. With a 4L80e and a 9", the dyno won't tell the tale like the track will I'm sure.

crazylane Oct 16, 2007 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by N4cer (Post 7959639)
I just did a 408 shortblock with good parts for under $4k.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you do it under 4k??? Was it a salvage block or something?

Lane


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