Guess what was on my drain plug????
02-03-2008, 11:12 PM
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Well now that helps a lot. Not a helocoil for sure. I can't thing of anything in the motor with a spring that size. Could it be, it somehow accidentally fell in the motor while the heads were off, or the valvecovers were off?
02-03-2008, 11:23 PM
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Thats the thing i have no clue what the hell would have fallen in. I have no idea i am just gonna drive it and probably check my plugs to see if i am burning oil
02-04-2008, 10:28 AM
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On a side note...thats a hell of a camera you have there to be able to zoom in that much on such a tiny spring.
Does anyone else agree with me...when you find the bad seal, check the spring CAREFULLY for witness marks from the spring passing through it? I mean I think it's worth replacing a spring now versus a piston, valve and possibly head in the future if that spring DOES have a weak spot and breaks.
Does anyone else agree with me...when you find the bad seal, check the spring CAREFULLY for witness marks from the spring passing through it? I mean I think it's worth replacing a spring now versus a piston, valve and possibly head in the future if that spring DOES have a weak spot and breaks.
02-04-2008, 02:04 PM
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On a side note...thats a hell of a camera you have there to be able to zoom in that much on such a tiny spring.
Does anyone else agree with me...when you find the bad seal, check the spring CAREFULLY for witness marks from the spring passing through it? I mean I think it's worth replacing a spring now versus a piston, valve and possibly head in the future if that spring DOES have a weak spot and breaks.
Does anyone else agree with me...when you find the bad seal, check the spring CAREFULLY for witness marks from the spring passing through it? I mean I think it's worth replacing a spring now versus a piston, valve and possibly head in the future if that spring DOES have a weak spot and breaks.
02-04-2008, 02:23 PM
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that spring is very weak and tiny. I recall popping one off by accident before I got them installed on my car. I can't imagine them doing anything serious to your valve springs unless you were binding the valve spring.
There's a video on PRC's website of beehive, duals and triple springs and when you consider that they are pushing the extremes in those videos and the amount of gap available, I think the valve spring would end up being none the worse for wear. Just make sure the valve seal didn't come loose and rattle around as that can cause damage as opposed to the spring if wedged in between.
There's a video on PRC's website of beehive, duals and triple springs and when you consider that they are pushing the extremes in those videos and the amount of gap available, I think the valve spring would end up being none the worse for wear. Just make sure the valve seal didn't come loose and rattle around as that can cause damage as opposed to the spring if wedged in between.
02-04-2008, 03:21 PM
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All i can say is thats one helluva a camera you've got 
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Yes that is a valve stem seal and im 99.9% positive. there is no other springs that size inside the motor. You can see where it looks like it stretched for some reason or got in a bind and broke.
..Yes that is a valve stem seal and im 99.9% positive. there is no other springs that size inside the motor. You can see where it looks like it stretched for some reason or got in a bind and broke.
02-04-2008, 07:35 PM
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My point is though...it IS steel, small or large, and it is squashed like it was bound into SOMETHING. If the spring isn't binding...that doesn't mean it has room for another spring to fit through...it's at LEAST worth checking, since it HAS to come off to put the new seal on.
02-04-2008, 09:43 PM
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on the contrary... when you've seen just how big those springs are in comparison to the gaps when the car is running...
http://www.racingsprings.com/Pictures.htm
scroll to the bottom of the page and watch the videos, a spring that small and soft isn't likely to damage a valve spring that goes through that kind of abuse.
He'll have to take off the valve spring to see, but in the mean time I doubt his spring will bust apart due to a valve stem seal spring falling apart.
http://www.racingsprings.com/Pictures.htm
scroll to the bottom of the page and watch the videos, a spring that small and soft isn't likely to damage a valve spring that goes through that kind of abuse.
He'll have to take off the valve spring to see, but in the mean time I doubt his spring will bust apart due to a valve stem seal spring falling apart.