Cam E.O. emissions legality
No, it doesn't. It would be like Katech doing it. Berger is aftermarket just the same. Technically Berger could get in trouble for it. I doubt it would happen though. I don't know if they sold to California or not.
No they did not. They had to be purchased out of state. Just like Fords and the Cobra R Not legal for sale or use in the state of california
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Actually the Edelbrock cam is a copy of a Lingenfelter cam (same specs). Yes, it is supposed to run on the stock tune.
Lingenfelter recommends the LS6 springs.
I would not tell CARB anything. As long as it passes Smog; who cares?
Lingenfelter recommends the LS6 springs.
I would not tell CARB anything. As long as it passes Smog; who cares?
Jason Harding (Katech),
You are mixing up the conversation of CARB EO certification for aftermarket products with emission certification for individual vehicle from a referree. Two totally different things. CARB EO only applies to manufactured parts from companies wanting to sell products that are for use on street driven vehicles which abide by CA emissions standards. Emission certification by a referee is for individual parties where they have swapped out an engine of an older vehicle to a newer cleaner running engine. A company, like Katech can not apply for this kind of certification that would allow an engine swap and be granted a CARB EO number. Also changing the size of the engine (while keeping the OE block) will not fly, as it adversely affect the emissions output substainly.
What you all need to understand is that if you want to sell a part or component to be legally used in CA abiding emissions states, CARB will run it through the ringer and check all components. We have a mustang turbo kit for the 2005 and newer models, CARB denied it just because we used a hose that had .1% too much vapor premeation in the engine bay. We had to source out a different supplier and resubmit the entire kit again (read as costly). Smog is not just about tailpipe emission, it is about emission from sub-par components that pollute the enviroment, not just politics or money.
You are mixing up the conversation of CARB EO certification for aftermarket products with emission certification for individual vehicle from a referree. Two totally different things. CARB EO only applies to manufactured parts from companies wanting to sell products that are for use on street driven vehicles which abide by CA emissions standards. Emission certification by a referee is for individual parties where they have swapped out an engine of an older vehicle to a newer cleaner running engine. A company, like Katech can not apply for this kind of certification that would allow an engine swap and be granted a CARB EO number. Also changing the size of the engine (while keeping the OE block) will not fly, as it adversely affect the emissions output substainly.
What you all need to understand is that if you want to sell a part or component to be legally used in CA abiding emissions states, CARB will run it through the ringer and check all components. We have a mustang turbo kit for the 2005 and newer models, CARB denied it just because we used a hose that had .1% too much vapor premeation in the engine bay. We had to source out a different supplier and resubmit the entire kit again (read as costly). Smog is not just about tailpipe emission, it is about emission from sub-par components that pollute the enviroment, not just politics or money.
Hope this helps:
"When rebuilding an engine, it must be rebuilt to the original equipment specifications. However, if you do decide to change the engine, these guidelines must be observed to ensure that the vehicle will be eligible for smog certification or registration."
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html
"When rebuilding an engine, it must be rebuilt to the original equipment specifications. However, if you do decide to change the engine, these guidelines must be observed to ensure that the vehicle will be eligible for smog certification or registration."
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html
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CARB rules...? When swapping an LS6 from a Y-body into a same year F-body, do the CARB rules allow the F-body catalytic converters and exhaust manifolds to be used or do they require the Y-body ones...?
What if the Y-body was a later year (e.g. 2002 Y-car -> 2001 F-car), the swap is allowed, but which converters/exhaust manifold are allowed/required...?
And swapping from an earlier year Y-body is not allowed (2001 Y-car -> 2002 F-car), correct...?
What if the Y-body was a later year (e.g. 2002 Y-car -> 2001 F-car), the swap is allowed, but which converters/exhaust manifold are allowed/required...?
And swapping from an earlier year Y-body is not allowed (2001 Y-car -> 2002 F-car), correct...?
