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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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do any of you see the vvt option being put on the lsx engines...i know the l92 has it but..that motor's not on any of gm performance cars....just want to know what you guys think about this....vvt can be a good performance tool
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Are you talking about displacement on demand? I would say no help in perf. applications. True variable valve timing I would say yes.
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he means the Variable Valve Timing found on the L92 motors. The thing about that is, as of now, the ONLY cam which is compatible with that is the stock cam. If someone wants to market an aftermarket single bolt cam which is compatible, there might be an additional option.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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I read some more about it today. The new L99 in the Camaro will have it, and some trucks as of right now. IMO if and when the time comes you can run a aftermarket cam with high lift and long duration mr valve will meet mr. piston. GM already runs a smaller cam in the VVT motors and designs the pistons with reliefs just in case.
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Originally Posted by onefastrx7turbo
he means the Variable Valve Timing found on the L92 motors. The thing about that is, as of now, the ONLY cam which is compatible with that is the stock cam. If someone wants to market an aftermarket single bolt cam which is compatible, there might be an additional option.
Not true, I found this at SEMA....

To see it full size : http://image69.webshots.com/669/8/87...5IkMIMx_fs.jpg

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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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We've been doing these for a couple of years now.

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/page....Camshaft&id=30
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I realized my link isnt working. So heres a closeup with specs.

Mast Motorsports:, What are your specs? How do you keep the valves from hitting the pistons?


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Look in the new comp cams catalog and see the limiter they make for VVT cams. It limits the amount of travel of the cam shaft, so it allows some varible timing but not the full amount.
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Look in the new comp cams catalog and see the limiter they make for VVT cams. It limits the amount of travel of the cam shaft, so it allows some varible timing but not the full amount.
I see that, what is MAST doing is was my question, and what are their specs.
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We have a few different options, but one of our most popular is our L92 HO cam. It's .57X/.59X, 22X/23X @ 0.050, 115 LSA. This is the same cam that is in our L92 HO shop truck. This cam will make 530-540 at the crank when used in a stock L92.
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I can see why a mechanical limiter would be wanted for a guy that cant change the amount of VVT commanded via the computer, But we have full control of it all, So is that still really needed? As long as the tuner understands what his boundries are, Then there should be no issues of ptv problems. Messing with Cams with VVT also makes it nice on the ecms to adjust your VE for each type of cam movement. It is kind of annoying at first having to set up 2 different ve tables, but it makes for a VERY smooth running car when it is all done.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Awesome technology is getting better and better. I can see this as a benefit for street cars but not for drag cars.
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You can benefit in a drag car also if you REALLY want to. IF you are in control of the cam timing vs RPM in which you are, You can make it follow the optimum movements all the way thru each gear.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Awesome technology is getting better and better. I can see this as a benefit for street cars but not for drag cars.
A phaser limiter should not really be required if the cam is designed correctly. As far as drag cars go, we have a 2000 T/A with our L92 SS crate engine running 10.99s in the quarter. This engine is basically a stock L92 with a cam/springs swap. We took advantage of the VVT's broader torque curve to allow us to run a lower stall than we could with a fixed cam and still get these kind of numbers.

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Originally Posted by MastMotorsports
We've been doing these for a couple of years now.

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/page....Camshaft&id=30


Oops!! I stand corrected!
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Awesome technology is getting better and better. I can see this as a benefit for street cars but not for drag cars.
VVT is ancient technology in the ricer world.... Little motors need it to make acceptable torque with high lift cams.
Lets hope GM doesn't go to the gutter because the american economy is in shambles. Trade deficit anyone?

Well hopefully GM will start using this in more engines!
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