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Old 12-05-2010, 11:10 PM
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Ok, awhile back, I did a LS3 427 and tranny swap in my CETA. On the dyno, it made 508rwhp/480rwtq. Im happy with this setup. But, I was wondering if I was to go to 1 7/8s headers on this motor, how much of a rwhp/rwtq gain? If possible, I would like to get a good set of bigger headers that results in gains without compromising low end tq. Trying to decide which brand header should I run.
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Maybe try the 1 7/8 kooks headers with their new true duel set up. It is supposed to support 1200 horsepower.
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would definately upgrade to 1 7/8 but can't speculate the amount of increase....maybe a conservative 15-ish? Plenty of torque with the 427...you wouldn't notice any low end loss, imo. might need another tweak in the tune too.

depending on budget, i would focus on ARH or Kooks and work your way down from there.
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Id go 1 7/8s stepped to 2 at the minimum, if not 2 inches all the way. Texas speed tested their 1 3/4 against their 1 7/8s on a stock LS1. The numbers up to 4K were the same but after that i believe the 1 7/8s picked up about 8 across the rest of the rev range. So if they will make that much of a difference on a stock 346, they will make a big improvement on your car
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thats some good info, i want to do the same...
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Originally Posted by LPE 403
would definately upgrade to 1 7/8 but can't speculate the amount of increase....maybe a conservative 15-ish? Plenty of torque with the 427...you wouldn't notice any low end loss, imo. might need another tweak in the tune too.

depending on budget, i would focus on ARH or Kooks and work your way down from there.
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Id go 1 7/8s stepped to 2 at the minimum, if not 2 inches all the way. Texas speed tested their 1 3/4 against their 1 7/8s on a stock LS1. The numbers up to 4K were the same but after that i believe the 1 7/8s picked up about 8 across the rest of the rev range. So if they will make that much of a difference on a stock 346, they will make a big improvement on your car

Yea I thought it would benefit my setup. After all, part of my build has the FAST intake 102/102 TB combo. So that should definately wake it up. What's kinda stopping me is the ground clearence. Right now, the SLP LTs fit pretty good with these redesign ones. I had them for two yrs. I wonder if my SLP catback will fit with the ARH or Kooks headers. If possible I would like to keep the catback. I have no desire to do the true dual setup.
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
Id go 1 7/8s stepped to 2 at the minimum, if not 2 inches all the way. Texas speed tested their 1 3/4 against their 1 7/8s on a stock LS1. The numbers up to 4K were the same but after that i believe the 1 7/8s picked up about 8 across the rest of the rev range. So if they will make that much of a difference on a stock 346, they will make a big improvement on your car

Anyone know how this size header fits with the stock f-body K-member? Any clearance issues etc?
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I do believe that the stock k member needs to be notched a bit, I too will be running a 2in on my 416 build but thank goodness I got that k-member in already.

CETA you got an awesome build! I think 2in FTW and you'll REALLY need a diff upgrade then

Then when the budget allows get that FAST 102 you'll have a beast then LOL
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Originally Posted by litle88
I do believe that the stock k member needs to be notched a bit, I too will be running a 2in on my 416 build but thank goodness I got that k-member in already.

CETA you got an awesome build! I think 2in FTW and you'll REALLY need a diff upgrade then

Then when the budget allows get that FAST 102 you'll have a beast then LOL
Thanks man. I understand what you mean with "FTW" but I already have the FAST 102 setup with the 102 tb. I think that my 85MM maf and 1 3/4 headers are holding back some rwhp/rwtq. My setup is pretty nasty even with current support mods.
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i went straight to 2" primaries on my 2010 ls3. with cai and full exhaust, still 2.5 dual, i pulled 435 hp/ 425 tq to the wheels with a completely stock long block.
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Originally Posted by bowtienick
i went straight to 2" primaries on my 2010 ls3. with cai and full exhaust, still 2.5 dual, i pulled 435 hp/ 425 tq to the wheels with a completely stock long block.
I was thinking of running 2" primaries. My motor will breathe alot better.
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Thats what I'll be running, IF the BUDGET lets me If not ill just get the TSP 1 7/8 headers. We shall see. I have a few months til I hit the dyno and streets.

When are you thinking 0f getting them?
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Originally Posted by litle88
Thats what I'll be running, IF the BUDGET lets me If not ill just get the TSP 1 7/8 headers. We shall see. I have a few months til I hit the dyno and streets.

When are you thinking 0f getting them?
I was thinking of getting them sometime in Jan. I'm trying to decide on kooks or ARH. I got the ARH catalog recently and they advertised their headers put down anywhere from 30rwhp to about 40 maybe 45rwhp and about 45rwtq. So anyone else seen the ARH catalog?
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You need to open up the entire intake tract to 100mm plus. An FTP 104mm lid, TSP 100mm MAF, 2 inch primaries and adding a Flowmaster merge to your y pipe should add a healthy # to your engine



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