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Choppy_Idle 05-02-2018 07:17 AM

102 throttle body DBW
 
Some experiences here with this TB, someone bought it and use it with success?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Performance-...-/273139924322

Greetz
Ron

Choppy_Idle 05-03-2018 11:40 AM

They told me, itīs made in China and works only on LSX/R intake manifolds, so i will try to keep my LS3 gold plate runnin and stay at 90mm TB...

Regards,
Ron

Chris25 05-03-2018 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Choppy_Idle (Post 19889622)
They told me, itīs made in China and works only on LSX/R intake manifolds, so i will try to keep my LS3 gold plate runnin and stay at 90mm TB...

Regards,
Ron

I've got the NW 102 DBW and I know they are notorious for being hard to tune but with a competent tuner and a little extra time they work with out a problem. They pop up on here every now and then in the for sale section for a decent price.

Choppy_Idle 05-04-2018 12:45 AM

Yes, i know about the issue by tune of them, but what u mean is the origin Nick Williams 102 TB, right?

Why did someone sells this piece of art, is there something bigger/better on market i didn't know???

Chris25 05-04-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Choppy_Idle (Post 19890058)
Yes, i know about the issue by tune of them, but what u mean is the origin Nick Williams 102 TB, right?

Why did someone sells this piece of art, is there something bigger/better on market i didn't know???

Nick williams is still one of the only DBW wire 102's you can get but they still have issues with boost so people usually end up selling them and moving to the boosted version or cable driven.

Che70velle 05-04-2018 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Choppy_Idle (Post 19890058)
Yes, i know about the issue by tune of them, but what u mean is the origin Nick Williams 102 TB, right?

Why did someone sells this piece of art, is there something bigger/better on market i didn't know???

well, there is bigger for sure. Check out the Southways 108. It’s capable, but costs about 3 times as much as a NW 102.

dw456post 05-04-2018 05:43 PM

What are you guys using for a silicone coupler from the nw102 to the intake tube?

Che70velle 05-04-2018 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by dw456post (Post 19890472)
What are you guys using for a silicone coupler from the nw102 to the intake tube?

I use a 4” rubber coupler that I bought from a reputable vendor that deals in intake tubing items only. It will go on, but requires a little elbow grease. I bought my carbon fiber tubing from same vendor.

Choppy_Idle 05-05-2018 03:12 PM

Which is the exact diam on the 102 TB to fit a elbow coupler, cant imagine a 4" is enough, cuz thats exactly 101.6mm...

Greetz
Ron

Darth_V8r 05-06-2018 12:11 AM

The OD of the NW is just around 4.125. The 4 inch silicone tubing with stretch over the flange but you will need a 4.25, not just a 4 inch hose clamp.

dw456post 05-06-2018 01:15 PM

Thanks!
I wasn't sure if it would stretch or not. Seems like sizes go from 4" to 4.5"

dreadpirateroberts 05-10-2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by Chris25 (Post 19889746)
I've got the NW 102 DBW and I know they are notorious for being hard to tune but with a competent tuner and a little extra time they work with out a problem. They pop up on here every now and then in the for sale section for a decent price.

they are incredibly simple to tune.

dreadpirateroberts 05-10-2018 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Choppy_Idle (Post 19889622)
They told me, itīs made in China and works only on LSX/R intake manifolds, so i will try to keep my LS3 gold plate runnin and stay at 90mm TB...

Regards,
Ron

Lots of places in china are notorious for getting US made products, reverse engineering them, and sticking them on the market for cheap.

it's been happening with a lot of other parts.

screw them, just for doing that, not just for lousy quality.

Chris25 05-11-2018 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by dreadpirateroberts (Post 19894260)
they are incredibly simple to tune.

That's pretty misleading at best....... I would suggest a google search. If you are familiar with tuning them they are not as bad but not every tuner is equal and they can be a pain at times to get dialed in.

dreadpirateroberts 05-11-2018 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Chris25 (Post 19894415)
That's pretty misleading at best....... I would suggest a google search. If you are familiar with tuning them they are not as bad but not every tuner is equal and they can be a pain at times to get dialed in.

It's not misleading at all. I would suggest an in depth google search.

dreadpirateroberts 05-11-2018 06:00 PM

I mean, honestly, if your tune is already dialed in on an E40, the ECM already knows the idle airflow and startup airflow requirements. None of that will change. It just needs to know how big the TB is so it can translate those to a position value for a given airflow requirement.

if you get a dramatic increase in airfow because you switch to a bigger TB, i can imagine having to do some additional retuning.

i have read boosted guys have issues with NW102's, but i also read that has been corrected. I have no experience using it with boost.

Chris25 05-11-2018 07:26 PM

I'm not going to argue do a search and you will see what I am referencing.

dreadpirateroberts 05-12-2018 05:23 PM

I had no issue at all tuning mine. why don't you post exactly what you're referring to?

Chris25 05-12-2018 08:22 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=nw+102+tunning+issues&rlz=1C1CHBH_enUS732 US732&oq=nw+102+tunning+issues&aqs=chrome..69i57.1 7325j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There's that............. But I will leave it at that and not continue to drag this off topic.

dreadpirateroberts 05-12-2018 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Chris25 (Post 19895366)
https://www.google.com/search?q=nw+1...hrome&ie=UTF-8

There's that............. But I will leave it at that and not continue to drag this off topic.

that's cute.


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