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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Ok smarty pants if you read my post, i said heads, not intake.

Check attachment: Red line is stock LS7 heads. Blue is their slight port work to extend the flow.

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From Richard at WCCH:

I recently flow tested a new pair of LS7 heads and intake manifold. I realize LS7 head flow data has been previously posted but I thought I’d add a bit more data to the mix. The heads were casting #8452. The test valves are oem. Apparently the titanium intake valves are on hiatus for a while, but I managed to scare up a couple for testing and mockup. The intake head flow is as follows:

Lift __.100 _.200 _.300 _.350 _.400 _.450 _.500 _.550 _.600 _.650 _.700
#1 Int. 75.5 162.7 245.5 279.1 305.8 326.4 344.5 360.2 370.7 333.7 336.1
#2 Int. 75.3 163.5 244.0 277.0 303.8 323.7 342.2 359.4 370.6 332.3 335.9

The heads were tested on a SF 600 flow bench.
The intake ports were tested with a radius flow plate on a 4.155” test bore.
I then tested the same ports with an LS7 intake manifold bolted in place:

#5 Int. 74.9 157.7 228.2 254.8 276.9 293.9 306.5 317.4 325.4 331.4 302.2
#7 Int. 75.0 158.3 227.6 254.5 276.0 293.7 306.5 316.9 326.0 331.4 304.8

Due to word wrapping I trimmed a couple of lift points off below .300" and above .700".
As you can see the intake manifold extended the flow peak by .050”, though it reduced peak flow by 45cfm. The flow peak is within the designed lift curve. This is very impressive flow under the peak. Great job designing and machine finishing the ports, chambers and seats.
On the exhaust side, the exhaust ports flow is as follows:

Lift ___.100 _.200 _.300 _.350 _.400 _.450 _.500 _.550 _.600 _.650 _.700
#1 Exh. 57.5 118.8 176.7 207.3 221.7 229.7 235.9 240.8 243.9 246.2 247.9
#2 Exh. 26.2 115.4 168.5 194.4 206.2 213.4 218.5 222.9 225.6 227.8 228.9

The #1 exhaust port was tested with a 1.875” dia. Pipe 2.5” long.
The #2 exhaust port was tested with out a test pipe.
Care to dispute two independent sources?

Have a good night!
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Haans249
Ok smarty pants if you read my post, i said heads, not intake.

Check attachment: Red line is stock LS7 heads. Blue is their slight port work to extend the flow.

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From Richard at WCCH:


Care to dispute two independent sources?

Have a good night!
From your own reference:
"As you can see the intake manifold extended the flow peak by .050”
Did you happen to notice the flow peak was extended to 0.650"with the intake manifold in place?


Don't know about you, but most people run their cars with the intake manifold on the car, not sitting next to a flow bench.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Peak flow #s mean very little in overall performance..
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by narcszm
From your own reference:

Did you happen to notice the flow peak was extended to 0.650"with the intake manifold in place?


Don't know about you, but most people run their cars with the intake manifold on the car, not sitting next to a flow bench.
Hahaha, that would be why I had bold that part when I stated that I said heads, not intake in my original post. Just learn something new and quit arguing.

Ron is right, peak flow #'s mean little in performance. Its low-mid lift numbers that really matter for street cars, this is why TFS heads perform so well!

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Would you rather have 20 cfm at .200 or 10 cfm at .650?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Haans249
Still a good choice, but i think you would have really liked the LS7X cam

Keep us updated on how it turns out!
That cam did look good, I just couldn't get away from the monster torque numbers that the Torquer put down... That and the 10.6 times it recorded in a cam only Z. Did you spend any time in Mahmudiyah?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by C5 Forever
That cam did look good, I just couldn't get away from the monster torque numbers that the Torquer put down... That and the 10.6 times it recorded in a cam only Z. Did you spend any time in Mahmudiyah?
Only drove through it on a convoy. I was stationed at Abu Ghraib/BIAP(Liberty) my first deployment in 2004 and then up in a small base near Kirkuk called FOB McHenry in Hawijah during my second deployment in 2007 with the 2-27 Wolfhounds / 25th Inf Div.
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