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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:38 AM
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I really want to use L92 heads on my new 408 I am building but have seen people say that with nitrous I may have issues because of the think deck on the L92 heads, is it possible to pin the heads or "dowel" them to keep them down and prevent this from happening? Anybody seen this or heard of this? Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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i dont know about pinning, you can get them oringed.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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Yeah I guess that is a possiblity too, however I never hear anybody talk about doing this on LSX applications. I remember from my fox body 5.0 days that o ringing the heads and block were pretty popular but I don't know that I have ever seen anybody do that with an LSX platform, is there a reason for this?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Most of the problems I have heard of with L92 heads lifting, has been with boost, Not nitrous. Just use some heads studs and have at it. I wouldn't think spraying a 300 shot would cause these heads to lift in the least. People on the internet like to reiterate all this crap they hear about thin decks and whatever else, But they have no experience with any of it.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Yeah I kind of feel the same way but I had a reputable engine builder tell me this also and I would like to believe him because he builds tons of fast LSX motors all the time but at the same time its still a business and companies have to make their money so a part of me thinks he is just telling me this so I will buy the TFS or AFR heads from him. What to do what to do.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by formula17
Most of the problems I have heard of with L92 heads lifting, has been with boost, Not nitrous. Just use some heads studs and have at it. I wouldn't think spraying a 300 shot would cause these heads to lift in the least. People on the internet like to reiterate all this crap they hear about thin decks and whatever else, But they have no experience with any of it.
isnt that relative to cylinder pressure though? seems like you could build just as much pressure with NAAAWZZZ!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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with nitrous you see a huge pressure spike at the hit-much higher than a boosted engine.The pressure is not as long as the boosted engine but does alot of damage in that short spike.


FYI-i don't reccommend parts to make money-it's to put out a trouble free product.I could be like some vendors who will sell you whatever you want,but i try to steer people to what they NEED.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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Thats cool thanks for the info shawn, I was not trying to call you out and say you are not trustworthy or anything, but at the same time I have learned the consumer has to cover his *** too because there are some companies out there that would say things to make a buck. I am just trying to get some opionions from mulitple people and engine builders to see what they think on the issue. I have tried searching the forums for it and have not seen a lot of discussion about it so trying to get as much info as I can about it. Not trying to discredit you or VA speed. No hard feelings man. Well since you posted in the thread what about running a set of ported stage 3 LS6 heads, do you think they would flow enough air to support a 408?
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If you want the square port design cylinder head and are worried about the thin deck height of the L92/LS3 with nitrous, consider the LSA heads from the supercharged Caddy's. Same port design as the L92/LS3, but they're manufactured with a denser material which is supposed to add a considerable amount of strength to the head/deck.

Just giving you another option to look at.

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Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
If you want the square port design cylinder head and are worried about the thin deck height of the L92/LS3 with nitrous, consider the LSA heads from the supercharged Caddy's. Same port design as the L92/LS3, but they're manufactured with a denser material which is supposed to add a considerable amount of strength to the head/deck.

Just giving you another option to look at.

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That is some very good info Mike and I was not aware of that. Are the LSA heads by chance as cheap as the L92 heads or are they more expensive? My whole reasoning really for wanting the L92 heads is because they are a good head and not $2500 like the TFS and AFR heads.
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Originally Posted by tording99Z28
That is some very good info Mike and I was not aware of that. Are the LSA heads by chance as cheap as the L92 heads or are they more expensive? My whole reasoning really for wanting the L92 heads is because they are a good head and not $2500 like the TFS and AFR heads.
I haven't priced them myself because I'm currently using a set of ported L92's. I have heard they were about the same price as the L92's, but then GM had a price hike on them so I'm not really sure. Call Scoggin Dickey and get a quote. I'm curious about them also so post up the price if you do.

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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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There are several factors that make the LSA and LS9 heads more desirable for boosted engines. They are GM designed to be stronger and more heat tolerant. The piston squirters are used in both the above engines are a big plus as well.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Mast Motorsports makes a 12 degree L92 head with a thicker deck...Just a FYI....I also believe they sell them with even larger valves...
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