LS2 timing chain Damper or tensioner?
The Ls2 dampner is a cheaper part and is really not a "just sell It to them part" it was just my .02, if owners and shops are seeing these malfunctioning then I'd think about buying a better and proven part and costs less. He asked so I'm just passing what I have seen. Yes Camaro5 members can be retarded!
LOL I know what you mean!
A member there once said didnt want to trade his stock Ls3 for a stroker 416 from CC performance because he said he wanted his car numbers matching!!!! I said like numbers matching to WHAT??!! no more posts were ever added there LOL
A member there once said didnt want to trade his stock Ls3 for a stroker 416 from CC performance because he said he wanted his car numbers matching!!!! I said like numbers matching to WHAT??!! no more posts were ever added there LOL
I agree^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am using the ls3 tensioner on my personal 402 stroker I am building for my CTS-V right now.
I have done a couple AFM delete cam swaps lately, with the kits coming with the LS2 chain block, I feel it is going backwards to put those in, but that is what the guys read on the internet, so that's what they wanted.
I have never seen a broken tensioner, myself, matter of fact just did another 08 G8GT with over 50,000 miles last week, tensioner looked great.
I am using the ls3 tensioner on my personal 402 stroker I am building for my CTS-V right now.
I have done a couple AFM delete cam swaps lately, with the kits coming with the LS2 chain block, I feel it is going backwards to put those in, but that is what the guys read on the internet, so that's what they wanted.
I have never seen a broken tensioner, myself, matter of fact just did another 08 G8GT with over 50,000 miles last week, tensioner looked great.
I took my G8 GXP apart for cam install and that wonderful LS3 tensioner was broken on my car. Car had less than 12000 on it too. LS2 style went back in, seeing is beleiving and it was fun getting the broken part out of the pan too. I am orginal owner of this car too.
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Just took apart my race engine with 10hrs on it and the LS3 timing chain dampner was failing also. Total crap.
Accellerated wear on the 3" long plastic guide portion too!
Accellerated wear on the 3" long plastic guide portion too!
I went in there to check out the phaser limiter placement and damn it all if I didnt accidentally release the frickn phaser srping. Uffff
Yeah well its probably not a "needed" part anyways ive not run any such tensioner/dampeners on older LS stuff so.... Plus this thing was running mint and clearly the tensioner was toast but for how long? Hard to say.
regardless LS2 dampener for me here on out. Apparently UD pulleys and failed tensioners have a connection though so thats something to consider. I run a Powerbond UD pulley.
regardless LS2 dampener for me here on out. Apparently UD pulleys and failed tensioners have a connection though so thats something to consider. I run a Powerbond UD pulley.
With the above post in mind, is it necessary to run any dampener? I'm building a 370 with ls2 timing set on an older (2000 model) block. Is it worth my time and effort to drill and tap the block for the damper, or "free chain" it? The purpose of the damper is to remove slack? Thanks -Edit: First LS build.
Bringing this thread back to life, has any opinion changed on which setup to use?
I'm currently sooo on the fence leaving the stock tensioner, or dropping the pan/oil pump to change out to the LS2 block during this VVT delete/cam upgrade.....
I'm currently sooo on the fence leaving the stock tensioner, or dropping the pan/oil pump to change out to the LS2 block during this VVT delete/cam upgrade.....
I've pulled apart a lot of VVT motors now and its about 50/50 whether the tensioner is broken or not. One had spun a bearing in what looked to be a sound motor so I suspect the metal clip got sucked up into the pick up tube and starved it. I would NOT recommend anyone run the spring tensioner in any application stock/performance/whatever.
Been running the LS2 style with no issues since above.
Been running the LS2 style with no issues since above.
Good info. I’m assembling an LS3 now, and it has the spring loaded tensioner. So maybe this didn’t start life as an LS3?
Anyway, looking at that thing, I will remove it and just go with a new chain and the old style (no moving parts) damper.
Would like to remove the 1 bolt cam too, but it’s not in the budget for the owner. I had to install a new cam pin because the owner sheared it off removing the cam bolt that a prev builder had loctited the crap out of.
Anyway, looking at that thing, I will remove it and just go with a new chain and the old style (no moving parts) damper.
Would like to remove the 1 bolt cam too, but it’s not in the budget for the owner. I had to install a new cam pin because the owner sheared it off removing the cam bolt that a prev builder had loctited the crap out of.
The chains always seem to loose to me. My first cam swap LS it made me so nervous but its just the way these suckers are. The iWis chain I run in my 87 is the loosest "feeling" of all of them. I typically use the LS2 chain though. Never had a single timing chain issue, not even one I worked on that had over 450k miles on it.
