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Old May 7, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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I am trying to decide on which lifters to use. There seems to be three different levels of lifters. The "Street" series, the standard series, and the "High RPM" series. My cam specs are 230/254 .644"/.630" on LXL and XE lobes. Spring pressure is 157lbs closed and 471lbs open. My original plan was to use LS7 lifters however due to the 6-bolt setup I am using I must use a link bar lifter.
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I am trying to decide on which lifters to use. There seems to be three different levels of lifters. The "Street" series, the standard series, and the "High RPM" series. My cam specs are 230/254 .644"/.630" on LXL and XE lobes. Spring pressure is 157lbs closed and 471lbs open. My original plan was to use LS7 lifters however due to the 6-bolt setup I am using I must use a link bar lifter.
http://www.straubtechnologies.com/ch...-lifters-4708/

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Old May 7, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Thank you for the reply but I need link-bar style lifters.
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What's the price on The 4708.s? I would look on The site but I'm on my phone.
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The street series are not the same as the higher end Morel lifters. The link bar 5206 is the normal Morel link bar and the High Rpm # 5294 is similar but the body is micronited and has tighter valving. We had some of these seize up as even tiny parlicles from dirty oil can cause problems whereas the normal Morel 5206 link bar set does not seem to have that issue. We stock most of the link bar Morels and also the 4708s which use the oem lifter trays like Christian showed you. We usually sell the Morel link bar 5206s for 525.00 and the Hi RPM s5294 for 625.00 when we have them. Lunati also sells both.
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I'm leaving work now buy we usually sell the 4708s for 500.00 when we have them or sometimes I drop ship them as well.
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That's a little more than I was looking to spend. I want to upgrade from the ls7 lifters, I don't mind paying 300 for lifters...is there anything in that price range?
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Originally Posted by bww3588
What's the price on The 4708.s? I would look on The site but I'm on my phone.
Here you go:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-cla...rect-drop.html

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I have the street version. With lunati dual kit 7500 rpm no issues. They are $325.

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Tim, I posted in this https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...lifters-3.html thread looking for a straight answer, I thought I would post it here as well, maybe you (or someone else) can shead some light on this...particulary post 56 on page 3.

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ok, so I'm still a little fuzzy on this...

Lunati 72332/Morel 5290 are only good for 6500 RPM's (according to the website)...= $380

LS7 lifters are good for 7k+ = ~$150...

anyone care to explain?

If i can figure out if the Lunati/Morel's are just as good or better than the LS7's at 7k+...I'd rather have them because I can get rid of the lifter tray and have a more reliable lifter...if thats the case. Otherwise, I'm sticking with LS7 lifters.
How do the 72332/5290's stack up against the LS7 lifters?
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It might be the OEM LS7 Lifters were engineered to work revving 7000rpm+ with the OEM LS7 camshaft, and OEM LS7 valve-train components...

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Originally Posted by racer7088
The street series are not the same as the higher end Morel lifters. The link bar 5206 is the normal Morel link bar and the High Rpm # 5294 is similar but the body is micronited and has tighter valving. We had some of these seize up as even tiny parlicles from dirty oil can cause problems whereas the normal Morel 5206 link bar set does not seem to have that issue. We stock most of the link bar Morels and also the 4708s which use the oem lifter trays like Christian showed you. We usually sell the Morel link bar 5206s for 525.00 and the Hi RPM s5294 for 625.00 when we have them. Lunati also sells both.
you carry those comp trunion upgrades too? i'm looking to buy those and the 5206 morel's here in the next week when i get off my deployment
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I feel the street lunati/morel are better than the ls7.

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I am leaning the same way...however I have heard of a few failures with the lunati link bar seizing up. Not the lifters but the link bar itself.
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Assuming one has quality springs and pushrods.... how high can one safely rev the LS7 lifters and the Morel 5206 link bar style?

I have both.... this is for a turbo setup on a built 364ci LS2 with a 1000rwhp goal.

7200rpm shift points are what I'm shooting for.
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Originally Posted by gnx7
Assuming one has quality springs and pushrods.... how high can one safely rev the LS7 lifters and the Morel 5206 link bar style?

I have both.... this is for a turbo setup on a built 364ci LS2 with a 1000rwhp goal.

7200rpm shift points are what I'm shooting for.
Need some quality lifters as well...

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The main thing here is right lobes paired with right springs and the correct pushrods. The real Morel lifters have better axles and bearings and wheels. The true Morel wheels are .750 in diameter instead of .700 like the street versions and LS7s but if the valvetrain is right all will live a much longer life though for sure.

I don't have the comp trunions but I can get them or drop ship them in a day or two.
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Ok, so springs, lobes and push rods match...will the lunati 72332's/5290's last with 6800 shift points with 7200 rev limit?
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Originally Posted by racer7088
The main thing here is right lobes paired with right springs and the correct pushrods. The real Morel lifters have better axles and bearings and wheels. The true Morel wheels are .750 in diameter instead of .700 like the street versions and LS7s but if the valvetrain is right all will live a much longer life though for sure.

I don't have the comp trunions but I can get them or drop ship them in a day or two.
So true Erik...and the 4708 racing I am pointing to in post #8 are the real thing, for performance/longevity/stability.

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Originally Posted by miami993c297
So true Erik...and the 4708 racing I am pointing to in post #8 are the real thing, for performance/longevity/stability.

Christian
Yes we have used a million of those and they rock. They have the better steel body and bigger wheel and better axle and bearings etc. They are the real deal exactly. I still use a lot of these and they are always reliable.

I mostly use the link bars on the Warhawk and RHS and of course the LSX since I do not like the way they do the lifter trays. On normal blocks the 4708s are great though. Never had an issue with the oem lifter trays and those lifters ever.
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