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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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If i was to buy the new gm ls3 block for my 416 build, do they come fully machined and decked? or would it still need to goto the shop?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Back to the shop and also clearanced for the stroke.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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To the shop!
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Does not have to be clearanced for a 4" stroke to make 416 cubes. If you buy your piston with the right compression height it will not need to be decked. Bore will be finished to size for piston. 4.065", just let a shop double check it for you.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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My 4" with eagle rods needed a notch.

Send it to have it looked over cleaned cam bearings installed.

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Same here with eagle hbeams.

To the shop ( that deals with ls motors) sir, do it once and do it right or you'll be paying twice. Take it from guys that have been there and done that lol.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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The ls3 blocks come with cam bearings installed. I'd take it to a builder to check it. Very cheap insurance.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gray86hatch
My 4" with eagle rods needed a notch.

Send it to have it looked over cleaned cam bearings installed.

Tim
Originally Posted by litle88
Same here with eagle hbeams.

To the shop ( that deals with ls motors) sir, do it once and do it right or you'll be paying twice. Take it from guys that have been there and done that lol.
No notch needed with my Callies rods.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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They come complete ready to assemble. There even pretty clean out of the box. I would clean it again anyhow. Only problem for your 416 is that they are just straight bored for the 4.065 factory piston at .00005 clearence and deck plates are not used when they are honed. No prob for the factory as they are designed to wear but with a 416 and forged pistons it should be rehoned with deck plates and get your proper clearence. They move a ton with the deck plates.
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They come complete ready to assemble. There even pretty clean out of the box. I would clean it again anyhow. Only problem for your 416 is that they are just straight bored for the 4.065 factory piston at .00005 clearence and deck plates are not used when they are honed. No prob for the factory as they are designed to wear but with a 416 and forged pistons it should be rehoned with deck plates and get your proper clearence. They move a ton with the deck plates.
You have a few too many 0's there for the factory spec.LOL The block bore stays the same whether it's a factory cast piston or a forged piston. Clearance is designed in the piston sizing. Typically a forged piston would be .003" to .005" smaller than the 4.065" bore. The factory cast piston would be .00075" to .0015" smaller than the 4.065" bore.
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I would definately recommend going to 4.070 (using a deck plate). Also worth noting....check piston to deck height in cylinders (1,2,7,8)... GM didnt do a very good job at holding parallism (at least with my brand new ls3 block)... mine was .004 differance from front to rear....and .002 different from one side to the other.....
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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I built one engine for my friend with eagle rods (needed clearancing)... but my compstar 416 setup didnt need clearancing...fwiw. (both 4" strokes
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