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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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Rod knock? Stuck/broken lifter? Broken double valve spring?


Ls2 70k miles
229-236(.624/.617)-112
.650 double valve springs
American Racing 1 7/8 catless
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Mustang dyno tuned at 449rwhp about a month ago. Noise started during normal driving, not hard driving.

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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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loose spark plug? Find using automotive stethoscope.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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I hope it's something that simple...
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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If it is internal it is most likely a lifter. You can put thicker oil in and if the lifter pumps up you can keep running the oil and or choose to change the lifter. I think that most of the lifter issues where the displacement on demand style. Like the first post check or the simple things. You can use a two by four to heat or a long socket extension. Valve train noise is more rapid than crank and rod knocks.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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My lifters have always been noisy in this car, beyond the typical LS valve train noise. I have had 7 or 8 LS motors and this one has been far more noticeable. A well known LS specific shop said it was still normal though.

I will start tearing it in a week or so after checking some simple things.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:24 AM
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I've never heard rod knock first hand though so I don't know what it sounds like.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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how is your oil pressure?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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sounds like valve train. performance still ok?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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all of that noise could be taken out with longer pushrods possibly. recheck wear pattern on valve tops and roll your pushrods on a flat surface you could have bent one or more.

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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 11:06 AM
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When I did the cam they put in hardened pushrods, comp I think. I didn't miss a shift or over Rev, that's why I don't think it's the pushrods.

Oil pressure hasn't changed. 38psi at idle. Oil temp is normal too.

I literally just finished an oil change, put in 10w-30 Dino.... Slightly quieter but still very noticeable.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Performance feels normal but obviously I haven't gone WOT or even over 2500rpm.
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Old Nov 9, 2013 | 05:10 AM
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To me, it just sounds like the pushrods are too short. Get someone to check for the correct length and then check yours to see what they are.
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Old Nov 10, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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first id pull valvecover and check for broken outer spring in the valve ,happens kinda regular...don't beat on it though(engine)def in valvetrain though possibly short pushrods as well!!
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Old Nov 10, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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while valvecover is off check for rocker play
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Old Nov 10, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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I don't think its pushrods because it has run very strong for 15k miles since cam/springs...etc were done. I am out of town for 2 days, I'll yank the covers when I get back.
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Back in town....

So I started it today and the same noise was obvious... Drove it 15 miles to friend's house and now the noise is few and far between.

I am going to pull vavle covers tonight.
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Sounds like a header leak, coming from the bottom of the header flange . I would check that first.
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Update! It was a lifter. Cam is ruined too.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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ouch. Might want to cut the oil filter apart and check for metal debris.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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I'm going turbo so I am yanking this LS2 and throwing in a forged shortblock and turbo friendly cam. I don't want to take the risk leaving this shortblock in with all this metal floating around. The cylinder walls have some vertical lines as well.

Oh well....
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