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Old 05-28-2014, 03:24 PM
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i'm at the point leaning towards getting an ls2 3 or 7 and have it sleeved by red or erl just waiting on phone calls back from both companies. i'll make this engine into a nice table lol. GM called me back they said that i can have a local tech look at the damage, and they might work with me on getting a new block
Get a 5.3 aluminum block and sleeve that. It and the LS2 block are the strongest factory blocks. Ray Litz bought a new 5.3 from GM and sent it to ERL and runs 7.40's with it.

You can pick up 5.3 alum blocks for cheap.
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I think he is needing a GenIV block, being that he has a C6Z
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If he is just going for a <600rwhp n/a build I don't see any need to mess with sleeving anything. Just buy a factory ls7 block and build it.
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Originally Posted by common sense
I think he is needing a GenIV block, being that he has a C6Z
L33 alum is a gen IV block

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If he is just going for a <600rwhp n/a build I don't see any need to mess with sleeving anything. Just buy a factory ls7 block and build it.
He might want to go bigger than 427 this go round.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
L33 alum is a gen IV block



He might want to go bigger than 427 this go round.

I don't believe that is correct. I thought the L33 was a Gen III 5.3L block and the LC9 is the 5.3L Gen IV aluminum block.

Can someone else chime in to verify?
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anyone know the hp rating if i do a 5.3 to sleeved to a 427 with red?

i forgot to ask him while i was on the phone with him.
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Originally Posted by One Bad Duramax
anyone know the hp rating if i do a 5.3 to sleeved to a 427 with red?

i forgot to ask him while i was on the phone with him.
It depends on what heads cam and intake you run along with compression. Or are you asking how much hp is the block good for after sleeving?
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The RED/ ERL will go up to 468ci. na and it can take over 2000hp F/I. RED and ERL R both sleeved 1 is wet sleeve the other is dry sleeve..
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Originally Posted by slowsol95
It depends on what heads cam and intake you run along with compression. Or are you asking how much hp is the block good for after sleeving?
yes how much will the block etc be good for after sleeving with steve i'm leaving the stock heads and just putting forged internals nothing to crazy. I'm not looking to make more then 600rwhp

i have a katech 116 cam in it also mahle said th's send me their high compression pistons
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Originally Posted by lil john
The RED/ ERL will go up to 468ci. na and it can take over 2000hp F/I. RED and ERL R both sleeved 1 is wet sleeve the other is dry sleeve..
i'd be staying at 427 always liked that number . it's going to be an N/A motor. does steve use a dry or wet ?
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Originally Posted by D9HP
I don't believe that is correct. I thought the L33 was a Gen III 5.3L block and the LC9 is the 5.3L Gen IV aluminum block.

Can someone else chime in to verify?
You are correct but...

LM4= Gen III 5.3L Aluminum block Version of the LM7
L33= Gen III 5.3L Aluminum block
LH6= Gen IV 5.3L Aluminum block
LC9= Gen IV 5.3L Aluminum block Flex fuel version of LH6
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
You are correct but...

LM4= Gen III 5.3L Aluminum block Version of the LM7
L33= Gen III 5.3L Aluminum block
LH6= Gen IV 5.3L Aluminum block
LC9= Gen IV 5.3L Aluminum block Flex fuel version of LH6
In what ways are the LH6 and LC9 blocks different?

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Originally Posted by One Bad Duramax
yes how much will the block etc be good for after sleeving with steve i'm leaving the stock heads and just putting forged internals nothing to crazy. I'm not looking to make more then 600rwhp

i have a katech 116 cam in it also mahle said th's send me their high compression pistons
As stated, sleeved blocks can handle a ton of power. I don't see you making anywhere near 600rwhp with Katechs Torquer 116.
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I stand corrected. Still you can use any block to do what you want.
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Originally Posted by common sense
As stated, sleeved blocks can handle a ton of power. I don't see you making anywhere near 600rwhp with Katechs Torquer 116.
agreed , but who knows what i'll add next I'm picking up the 5.3 block tomorrow then dropping it off to Steve for resleeving
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Originally Posted by D9HP
In what ways are the LH6 and LC9 blocks different?

Thanks!
If I had to guess, they might be the same. I have not had either one in my possession to see for my self.
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Originally Posted by lil john
The RED/ ERL will go up to 468ci. na and it can take over 2000hp F/I. RED and ERL R both sleeved 1 is wet sleeve the other is dry sleeve..
What are the advantages/disadvantages of wet or dry sleeves??

Another Q. What is the largest safe bore to go to ,say, if I was sleeving an LS2 block for NA purposes.
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