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Old May 18, 2016 | 02:55 AM
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Cam 1: 210/218 .551/.551 116+2 LSA 110ICL
Cam 2: 210/218 .551/.551 114+4 LSA 110ICL

These are both Vinci/Crane cams. Now I currently have the 116 LSA one and everyone I have talked to says I should of went with the 114 LSA Cam. I have the Peak Dyno #s at the crank listed in my Sig. From what Roger told me the only difference is the LSA and Advance ground in. Everyone keeps telling me the 114 lsa would gain more lowend then my current and have less of a broad torque curve and die off faster, but would benefit me more since I have a heavier truck and tow 6600lbs. Now I have my Shift points set at 6k RPM and dont plan to rev much more than that. Can someone explain how the 114 LSA would affect the power and tq compared to my 116LSA please. I will change out cams if necessary.
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IMO;

The 114*LSA cam will have 30 peak HP but will generate right at 20 peak TQ more than the 116* cam.

The 114*LSA cam should match or exceed the torque of the 116* cam through the entire RPM range with the most gain from about 3500 to 6000 RPMs.

From what I can tell, the 116* cam would fall off much more drastically than the 114* cam.

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First of all, you can't have a 116+2 cam with a 110ICL. The 116+2 tells you it has a 114 ICL.

The exhaust valve events are IDENTICAL between the two cams...Only the intake events are different. The 114 cam has 4* more overlap and it opens the intake valve 4* earlier and closes it 4* sooner. I personally like the 114 cam better because of the earlier IVC point, but I wouldn't swap one for the other. Just not worth it. I'd put the money towards a 6.0 motor. That'll be a swap you'll notice.
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Originally Posted by MyLS1Hauls
First of all, you can't have a 116+2 cam with a 110ICL. The 116+2 tells you it has a 114 ICL.......
Exactly. That was my initial miscalculation.

That having been said, if his cam was a 116* + 6* and then it was installed 2* advanced, that would really kill power !

Originally Posted by MyLS1Hauls
......The exhaust valve events are IDENTICAL between the two cams...Only the intake events are different. The 114 cam has 4* more overlap and it opens the intake valve 4* earlier and closes it 4* sooner. I personally like the 114 cam better because of the earlier IVC point, but I wouldn't swap one for the other. Just not worth it......
You're assuming a 116* + 2* as opposed to a 116* + 6*.....correct?

If so.....I would agree.

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The cam lsa and advance is correct, now roger vinci is the one who told me the ICL , maybe he mistyped. That is what I am assuming.
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Originally Posted by MyLS1Hauls
First of all, you can't have a 116+2 cam with a 110ICL. The 116+2 tells you it has a 114 ICL.

The exhaust valve events are IDENTICAL between the two cams...Only the intake events are different. The 114 cam has 4* more overlap and it opens the intake valve 4* earlier and closes it 4* sooner. I personally like the 114 cam better because of the earlier IVC point, but I wouldn't swap one for the other. Just not worth it. I'd put the money towards a 6.0 motor. That'll be a swap you'll notice.
I would love a 6.0, but finding a L76 Truck engine for under $3500-4000 is tuff and they are not easy to come by. That way to engine is plug and play and a tune.

I am gonna have the heads off my engine and would prefer the better of the two cams, i can get the 114LSA cam for next to nothing new from a friend and just switch them out.
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Originally Posted by 07NBSChevy
.....I am gonna have the heads off my engine and would prefer the better of the two cams, i can get the 114LSA cam for next to nothing new from a friend and just switch them out.
If you're doing the work yourself.....go for it!

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Sounds good guys, thanks for all the responses. I will go ahead and switch to the 114LSA cam.
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
You're assuming a 116* + 2* as opposed to a 116* + 6*.....correct?

If so.....I would agree.

KW
Yes. I looked up the specs on Vinci's website, and 116+2 is correct. It was probably just fat fingered in the email to the OP.

OP, be sure to report back on your impressions after the swap.
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Will do, I honestly should of went with a custom spec cam but everyone told me to give Roger Vinci a call. I have had the cam for about a year now and love it, except below 3k rpm it has lost some noticeable tq. Luckily my buddy works at a offroad shop and has a new 114lsa cam at his shop and i can exchange mine and get the other for around $100.
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