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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 06:34 PM
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I cant believe I did it. Rebuilt my engine and installed it like I have a hundred times .The ls main seals look like they are backwards when installed properly .Had to pull my 4x4 tranny.....Bummer. OH well ..64 years and I finally made a mistake.
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 06:57 PM
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Looking at pictures on line . It looks like I did it right. I don't know .
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Anyone have a picture of how the inside of the seal looks.
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Here is one from my LS3 crate before teardown. I don't have one from the inside of the cover, but this is how it should look from the outside.

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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 08:15 PM
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Here's a closer crop for detail.

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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 09:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure it says on the seal which side supposed to be out.
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 11:25 AM
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Thanks eb110 Looks like I had it right . I wonder if my rings ...not being seated , could cause that much blow by. A reverse seal seems stupid to me. Gonna put in another seal and run it while watching with the tranny off. I will also remove the oil fill cap to open up the crankcase. Thank you for the pix.
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Did you lube the seal and the journal though after rebuilding the engine?

They can get burned if you install them on a dry surface.
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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Yes and it looked good coming out. I'm going to put a new one in and do it as directed as I did the first time. It really does not make sense to have a seal that would allow oil to pass under pressure. I can see why some put it in backwards on purpose. Damn thing has me stumped......Oil was flowing , not leaking.
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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KCS not on this one , but I did have it in the right way. I'm putting another one in and watching it run with the trans off.
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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Make sure the crank is not damaged in this area as well as possibly having an old ridge from material build up. hopefully you looked carefully at this area and there was no issue.

Hope all is well with the new seal. Otherwise something maybe out of alignment.
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 01:21 AM
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Its been over a year since I rebuilt my last LS motor, but I do remember that GM recommend not to lube the crackshaft oil seal and just put it on dry, as its designed to rely on the friction with the crankshaft seal area to be seated in correctly.
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Thanks guys. just started it with new seal. It is actually pouring out of the top of the seal cover /housing. Ill take it off and let you know .
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
Did you lube the seal and the journal though after rebuilding the engine?

They can get burned if you install them on a dry surface.
It's my understanding that exactly the opposite is true - rear main seals NEED to be installed dry.
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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The second seal I purchased actually had a coating of what appeared to be grease on it.
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by StorminMatt
It's my understanding that exactly the opposite is true - rear main seals NEED to be installed dry.
That would be false.

Some seals come with Grease on them already for this very reason.

If you look in some gasket rebuild kits, they will tell you to lube the camshaft and crank seal prior to installing and to wipe off the excess after instal.

Same happens on a torque convertor if you install it dry. You will burn up the seal and it will leak.

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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 04:04 PM
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Thank you for your reply's. The problem was a crappy aftermarket cover gasket. Bought a FELPRO and could instantly see the difference. Man I had to pull my 4x4 and tranny for that..SUCKS !!!!!
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Well that sucks! At least you found the issue and it's resolved now. Thanks for posting up.
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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Glad it was nothing major. Definitely a fine example of how a cheap part can wind up costing you a lot [of time].
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Originally Posted by eb110americana
Here's a closer crop for detail.

The top of my seal looks just like yours at the top. Does mine look right?
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