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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 10:32 AM
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What kind of split would this combo need? I guess youd call it a L76 engine. I just picked up an ls2 shortblock and some ls3 heads. Need a cam for it. going in a c5 vette that's going to be straight roll race monster.
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 01:04 PM
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I'd mill them heads about .010"/.012" in order to keep the squeeze at around 10.5-ish
something similar to the ASA cam 226/236 would work pretty well
without fly cutting for the bigger valves, you usually can't fit much more than a 230-232 sized intake lobe
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Old Apr 24, 2017 | 01:13 PM
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Targa is close! Youd be stuck with a "mid size" cam with that head/bottom end. But having a roll race monster, youd either need nitrous, boost, or a really big cam. In order to do that youll need to flycut Mill the heads .020 to get them around 65cc and then flycut, we have about 2 or 3 cams or a custom cam that would fit what you need.
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 04:18 AM
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With my recent experience with flycutting pistons I would suggest you reconsider!
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 11:56 AM
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Cyl 7 and 8 ring lands seem to be an issue whether you flycut or not. Some blame it on intake design, but id prefer to look at steam pockets and coolant flow...or the lack of. So many custom steam vent kits out by reputable companies, id get one of them and fight that possible issue.
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 01:36 PM
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyno Junkie
With my recent experience with flycutting pistons I would suggest you reconsider!
How much did you have them milled?
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 11:42 AM
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The last G8 we did heads cam converter for made 440whp through a Circle D 3200 stall, with a set of $200 1 3/4 headers. Car started to detonate at 440whp so he dialed it back leaving it at 435. Frankenstein Stage 1 LS3 port program and a Frankenstein spec'd custom boost cam cut by cam motion. Car also has an aftermarket air intake that isn't exactly cold to the touch when warm lol. Retains stock rear 2.92s on factory wheels and tires. I'll get the dyno sheet and video from the customer and post.

Also, the car is FACTORY quiet. Barely, and I mean BARELY has any chop at all. Other than headers the car has factory exhaust and all factory resonators/mufflers.

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Cutting valve reliefs in OEM pistons? No way.
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Our custom grinds have powered some of the fastest and most powerful LS combinations on the planet. Check out the link below for our requested custom cam order form and we'll be happy to spec a custom camshaft to meet your needs and combination!

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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyGTO
How much did you have them milled?
Heads milled .075"
Flycuts .100"
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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 10:09 PM
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With normal clearance being .100 ish anyway you must have had zero clearance period.
Its better to give all the facts like that instead of saying "dont flycutt" with no other info. it can be pretty misleading.

Just looking at those specs, honestly i hope you arent serious. Overkill is a light term for that.

Normally i like to flycut with no head gasket to give that extra clearance, but i also keep that in mind when doing the deed. A heaf gasket is roughly .050 to round easily so youd have .150 clearance at least.
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 11:37 AM
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Hi, My method a low cost method ?

Your "roll race" call :

Fit Felpro 1041 Head Gasket with China studs
Fit camshaft 236/242 .560"/.535" with a L/C of 116* at Split Overlap
Fit Yellow of Blue springs
Fit a 2010 Camaro Oil Pump
Fit a single Timing Chain with Billet Gears

These items are in stock if you what my help ?

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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 01:40 PM
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Id never recommend a regrind, Chinese studs in a build honestly.
And a 2010 camaro oil pump is the same as a 2003 5.3l oil pump.
I dont want to get into a vendor war, but there is a difference in recommending cheap parts (also blatant lower quality chinese parts) and recommending good quality inexpensive parts.
We always like to recommend a single roller for most builds due to clearance issues. Normally itll be a melling 10295 and a JP perf single row billet or Rollmaster single row billet, or cloyes single row hd setup.
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
With normal clearance being .100 ish anyway you must have had zero clearance period.
Its better to give all the facts like that instead of saying "dont flycutt" with no other info. it can be pretty misleading.

Just looking at those specs, honestly i hope you arent serious. Overkill is a light term for that.

Normally i like to flycut with no head gasket to give that extra clearance, but i also keep that in mind when doing the deed. A heaf gasket is roughly .050 to round easily so youd have .150 clearance at least.
When I flycut mine I used a thinner head gasket then the gasket I was going to run. Probably was just a few thousands but I wanted to make sure I had the clearance.
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 10:48 AM
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Hi WS-6, sure I use "CHEAP PARTS" you fired the first shot !

1. GM does NOT service ANY part older than 10 years, this is WHY I state 2010 OP AND it IS the BEST part at the lowest COST.
2. The MAIN REASON I fit a head stud that will "grow" as does the head "grows" is to keep constant TORQUE.
When a head stud does NOT GROW, something will "give" most often it is the gasket.
This can cause the problem of a "blown" HG.
THIS art was taught to me BY Mike Costin when he created the BDA head for the Kent Ford block.
THUS who should the users here trust ? COSWORTH ? OR ????

AS for the other items you state, most, if not ALL of your state ARE made "off shore".

EXAMPLE : Cloyes BUYS Timing Chains for resale under their name.

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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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Chill man. Drink a beer on me.
You are really digging your own hole here and its not worth the extra effort to rip apart what you've said but ill say a few things.
7 years isnt 10 years. Gm still has many parts for ls1s. Gm doesnt make alot of their parts either. They buy em and put their name on them. Cloyes doesnt make chains, but they will sure tell you whom they get them from, either Rolon oe Romac or Iwis etc There are only a few places in the world that make quality chains.
All of what you are saying is a mixture of old news and bad ideas.

Im guessing the reason most like chinese head studs are they are cheap. Ive also seen more failures in a few months with them than any other stud out there. From threads not made right to stripping them while putting a nut ON them to pulling the threads off the stud upon torque procedure and them snapping off. We have the opportunity to sell them also, but refuse. A $40 stud kit isnt only too good to be true, its an insult to engine builders and customers. Im curious about the factual difference, so stay tuned. Im going to have some interesting info on them soon.
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Old May 11, 2017 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantera EFI
Hi, My method a low cost method ?

Your "roll race" call :

Fit Felpro 1041 Head Gasket with China studs
Fit camshaft 236/242 .560"/.535" with a L/C of 116* at Split Overlap
Fit Yellow of Blue springs
Fit a 2010 Camaro Oil Pump
Fit a single Timing Chain with Billet Gears

These items are in stock if you what my help ?

Lance
This Scares Me lol
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Old May 11, 2017 | 01:23 PM
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Who said I wanted cheap parts? And why on earth would I run such a low lift cam lol
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Old May 11, 2017 | 01:35 PM
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I used a Pat G spec'd Cam Motion cam. 230/238 .626" lift
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